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From: "J . A . Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
To: Ishikawa <ishikawa@yk.rim.or.jp>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux not adhering to BIOS Drive boot order?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:45:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010117164521.A7741@werewolf.able.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1355693A51C0D211B55A00105ACCFE64E95191@ATL_MS1> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101161154580.17397-100000@sol.compendium-tech.com> <20010116153757.A1609@munchkin.spectacle-pond.org> <20010117003205.A711@werewolf.able.es> <3A6569AF.63743C3B@yk.rim.or.jp>
In-Reply-To: <3A6569AF.63743C3B@yk.rim.or.jp>; from ishikawa@yk.rim.or.jp on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:45:20 +0100


On 2001.01.17 Ishikawa wrote:

> Anyway, I view myself a typical Linux end-user in
> the framework of linux system hacker, linux
> tools developer and the rest (user).
> All I do on my PC is run netscape, read e-mails,
> post news articles, run editor to edit documents,
> and compile a few utilities and such (for
> using openssh).
..
> Granted I probably have more general knowledge of computers,
> (administered and used Data General MV [:-)], DEC, HP, Sun, ...]
> than average users,
> but then I was totally confused about the
> recognition order of SCSI devices under Linux when I
> had the second SCSI adaptor in my PC.
> As a matter of fact, I hit on a dormant bug/feature
> in the SCSI subsystem and was helpless until
> I wrote to Kurt Garloff(DC390(tmscsim) maintainer).
> 

Perhaps I missed the word when I said 'play'. I wanted to say somyhing
like 'play with apache to setup my web server' or 'play with a command
line compiler to do my programs'. Play with soft included in Linux.

The normal user you will find around is people that wants to install the OS
and start doing things with it. SCSI disks are a 'strange' thing for the
average user. They usually see their first SCSI card if buy a SCSI
CD toaster or ZIP and have to install a 1502 or 2906 to drive the recorder.
So they will never have 8 disks in their machines or worry about SCSI
ones because they are expensive. They buy a PC in the store and do
not worry about chipsets or brands (well, now the graphics cards are
changing that, everybody knows what is a GeForce, even if they don't
know the diff between a VIA or a GX).

People coming from mac world (myself) are comfortable between scsi
ids, terminators and so on. Win people are used to master, slave and that.
And in the PC world, SCSI people is the less. So having 3 SCSI cards is
a so advanced matter in a PC (god should have erased the mind of the
designer of the BIOS hell) that I see no reason to tweak lilo or other
soft.


-- 
J.A. Magallon                                                      $> cd pub
mailto:jamagallon@able.es                                          $> more beer

Linux werewolf 2.4.0-ac9 #2 SMP Sun Jan 14 01:46:07 CET 2001 i686

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-17 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-16 16:43 Linux not adhering to BIOS Drive boot order? Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:01 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 20:37   ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 21:01     ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 21:23       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 23:32     ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-17  0:05       ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17  0:42       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17  2:14         ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-17 17:22           ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17 18:41         ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-17  9:45       ` Ishikawa
2001-01-17 15:45         ` J . A . Magallon [this message]
2001-01-16 23:51     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17 19:22   ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:32     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-17 20:46       ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 21:26     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-18 16:55 David Balazic
2001-01-18 19:49 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 16:36 Andries.Brouwer
2001-01-18 11:01 David Balazic
2001-01-18 11:35 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 13:01   ` Xavier Bestel
2001-01-18 14:03     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-17 11:04 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:56 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:48 David Balazic
2001-01-17 23:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18 10:14   ` David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:21 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:28 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan
2001-01-16 22:54 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:14 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:30 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 21:18   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 15:33   ` Mike Porter
2001-01-17 16:16     ` James Bottomley
2001-01-17 17:07       ` Craig Ruff
2001-01-18 12:50       ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 17:59         ` idalton
2001-01-18 18:14           ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 20:53           ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-18 22:55             ` David Weinehall
2001-01-16 17:39 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:58 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 21:11   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17  9:38     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-17  9:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-01-17 10:19         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 10:02       ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-19  1:17         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-17 10:12       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 23:19         ` Russell King
2001-01-17 19:50 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:43   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:14     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  0:39       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:59         ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  9:41         ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-16 17:30 Bryan Henderson
2001-01-16 17:04 David Balazic
     [not found] <Venkateshr@ami.com>
2001-01-16 16:56 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 19:52   ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:51 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:09 ` Honza Pazdziora
2001-01-16 16:46 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:04 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 17:24   ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 18:22   ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 19:18     ` Matthew D. Pitts
2001-01-16 19:54     ` Christopher Friesen
2001-01-16 21:04     ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 22:51 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 16:31 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:53 ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 19:48 ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:19 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:23 ` Florent Cueto
2001-01-16 16:31 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-16 15:49 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:06 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 16:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Matthias Andree
2001-01-16 16:45 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-16 17:38 ` Malahal Rao Naineni

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