From: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
To: raj@cup.hp.COM (Rick Jones)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]]
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:03:19 +0300 (MSK) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200101192003.XAA25191@ms2.inr.ac.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A68908C.3F3FE453@cup.hp.com> from "Rick Jones" at Jan 19, 1 10:15:04 pm
Hello!
> the business about the last 1100ish bytes of a 4096 byte send being
> delayed by nagle only implies that the stack's implementation of nagle
> was broken and interpreting it on a per-segment rather than a per-send
> basis.
+
> software, or the host TCP stack. otherwise, the persistent connections
> would have worked just fine.
Exactly.
But, actually, there exist the situation (in http-1.1, but not in the nature,
as it is now 8)), when explicit push is required even with ideal nagling.
Look: http-1.1, asynchronous one, the first request is sent, but not acked.
Time to send the second one, but it is blocked by Nagle. If there is no
third request, the pipe stalls. Seems, this situation will be usual,
when http-1.1 will start to be used by clients, because of dependencies
between replys (references) frequently move it to http-1.0 synchronous
mode, but with some data in flight. See?
Solution is evident. On such kind of connections explicit push
must be made as soon as we complete some request _and_ there are no
more pending requests in queue.
Alexey
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2001-01-17 19:27 ` [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]] Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 20:03 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-17 20:38 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-17 20:57 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 13:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 14:57 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 18:24 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 2:46 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 3:03 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 19:07 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 20:03 ` kuznet [this message]
2001-01-19 21:20 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-20 18:03 ` kuznet
2001-01-22 18:44 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-20 14:56 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-01-23 7:20 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-20 23:09 ` Lincoln Dale
2001-01-20 23:27 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-21 0:02 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-18 12:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-25 17:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-17 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 22:17 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-17 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 22:44 ` Jonathan Walther
2001-01-18 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 17:49 ` Zach Brown
2001-01-19 3:16 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 3:56 ` David Ford
2001-01-18 18:29 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 19:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 19:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 20:11 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 21:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:37 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 21:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19 0:27 ` Olivier Galibert
2001-01-19 0:59 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 17:52 ` kuznet
2001-01-19 20:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 21:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 21:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 22:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 22:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-19 15:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19 18:18 ` kuznet
2001-01-19 21:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 17:28 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 18:14 ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-01-20 18:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 19:05 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-20 20:22 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 21:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 20:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-21 18:37 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:39 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 21:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 21:31 ` Guus Sliepen
2001-01-18 22:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 19:59 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19 3:25 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 3:35 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-18 9:34 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 18:20 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 19:45 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 20:30 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 22:49 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 13:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-17 21:51 Dan Kegel
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2001-01-24 0:19 Cacophonix
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