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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, mingo@elte.hu, raj@cup.hp.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]]
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:56:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010120215615.B5274@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010120203023.A5274@athlon.random> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101201138100.10317-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101201138100.10317-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:39:30AM -0800

On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:39:30AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> As far as I can tell, the second "write(1)" will always merge with the
> first one - unless the first one has already been sent out, [..]

Here the question is only if the first write(1) will be still there when we do the
second write(1).

If the first write(1) is still there it will of course merge fine with the second
write(1) as usual.

With 2.4 we'll send out the first write(1) immediatly on the wire if cwnd and
receiver window allows that without caring that there are packets out. While
the classcal nagle (the only one I known about) would wait for the second
write(1) to arrive until all the previously sent data is been acknowledged from
the receiver (to give to the second write(1) the time to be merged with the
first write(1)).

It's not obvious this new algorithm a good thing to me but I won't argue if
this is the new standard algorithm.

So now the question is: when does this new nagle algorithm delay packets in the
write queue? It _must_ do something, otherwise TCP_NODELAY would obviously be a
noop.

Andrea
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-20 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2001-01-17 19:27 ` [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]] Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 20:03   ` Rick Jones
2001-01-17 20:38     ` dean gaudet
2001-01-17 20:57       ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 13:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 14:57           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 18:24           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19  2:46         ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19  3:03           ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 19:07           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 20:03             ` kuznet
2001-01-19 21:20               ` Rick Jones
2001-01-20 18:03                 ` kuznet
2001-01-22 18:44                   ` Rick Jones
2001-01-20 14:56           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-01-23  7:20             ` dean gaudet
2001-01-20 23:09           ` Lincoln Dale
2001-01-20 23:27             ` James Sutherland
2001-01-21  0:02               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-18 12:56       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-25 17:58         ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-17 21:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 22:17       ` Rick Jones
2001-01-17 22:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 22:44           ` Jonathan Walther
2001-01-18 13:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 16:49             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 17:49               ` Zach Brown
2001-01-19  3:16                 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19  3:56                   ` David Ford
2001-01-18 18:29               ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 18:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 19:38               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 19:43                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 19:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 20:11                     ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:33                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 21:14                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:24                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:37                     ` kuznet
2001-01-18 21:04                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19  0:27                         ` Olivier Galibert
2001-01-19  0:59                           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 17:52                         ` kuznet
2001-01-19 20:54                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:44                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 21:54                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 21:57                         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 22:16                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 22:18                             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-19 15:25                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19 18:18                                 ` kuznet
2001-01-19 21:13                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 17:28                                     ` kuznet
2001-01-20 18:14                                       ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-01-20 18:23                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 19:05                                         ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:30                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 19:39                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-20 20:22                                               ` kuznet
2001-01-20 21:20                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 20:56                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-01-21 18:37                                                 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:39                                             ` kuznet
2001-01-20 21:05                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 21:31                                               ` Guus Sliepen
2001-01-18 22:20                             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 19:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 19:59                 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:44                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19  3:25                 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19  3:35                   ` dean gaudet
2001-01-18  9:34         ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 18:20           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 19:45             ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 20:30             ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 22:49               ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 13:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 16:51           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:04             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-17 21:51 Dan Kegel
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2001-01-24  0:19 Cacophonix

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