From: R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl (Rogier Wolff)
To: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Cc: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
James Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:23:28 +0100 (MET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200101281823.TAA06080@cave.bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0101281307090.24762-100000@shell.cyberus.ca> from jamal at "Jan 28, 2001 01:08:40 pm"
jamal wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote:
>
> > jamal wrote:
> > > > Yes,
> > > > those firewalls should be updated to allow ECN-enabled packets
> > > > through. However, to break connectivity to such sites deliberately just
> > > > because they are not supporting an *experimental* extension to the current
> > > > protocols is rather silly.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is the way it's done with all protocols. or i should say the way it
> > > used to be done. How do you expect ECN to be deployed otherwise?
> >
> > Thinking about this a bit more:
> >
> > A sufficiently paranoid firewall should block requests that he doesn't
> > fully understand. ECN was in this category, so old firewalls are
> > "right" to block these. (Sending an 'RST' is not elegant. So be it.)
> >
> > However, ECN is now "understood", and operators are now in a position
> > to configure their firewall to "do the right thing". This is
> This would have been easier. The firewall operators were not
> provided with this option. This is hard-coded. I agree with the rest
> of your message.
Take "configure" with a bit of liberty. Because the firewall vendor
chose to hard-code this into the firmware. "configuring" in this case
means reconfiguring new software on the firewall. Blame the vendor.
Roger.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-01-28 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-28 0:14 ECN: Clearing the air (fwd) jamal
2001-01-28 8:56 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 12:18 ` jamal
2001-01-28 13:29 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 14:34 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-01-28 16:44 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-29 7:32 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-29 12:30 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-29 18:31 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-29 19:02 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2001-01-29 19:27 ` George
2001-01-29 19:59 ` Alex Pennace
2001-01-28 14:54 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-28 16:15 ` jamal
2001-01-28 17:11 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 18:07 ` jamal
2001-01-28 20:13 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-29 2:58 ` David Lang
2001-01-29 7:20 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-28 19:42 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-29 0:14 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-31 18:02 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-03 16:51 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-01-29 12:57 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-28 17:39 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-28 18:01 ` Graham Murray
2001-01-28 18:08 ` jamal
2001-01-28 18:23 ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2001-01-28 18:38 ` jamal
2001-01-28 20:18 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 21:33 ` ECN fixes for Cisco gear Dax Kelson
2001-01-28 22:09 ` ECN connectivity surveys Dax Kelson
2001-01-28 21:45 ` ECN fixes for Cisco gear Lincoln Dale
2001-01-28 14:04 ` ECN: Clearing the air (fwd) Ben Ford
2001-01-28 14:09 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 15:38 ` Ben Ford
2001-01-28 19:55 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 19:45 ` Gregory Maxwell
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