From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:29:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010128232943.D1300@bug.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A7333FF.AA813685@transmeta.com> <200101272101.WAA27234@cave.bitwizard.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200101272101.WAA27234@cave.bitwizard.nl>; from Rogier Wolff on Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 10:01:02PM +0100
Hi!
> > > > It output garbage to the 80h port in order to enforce I/O delays.
> > > > It's one of the safe ports to issue outs to.
>
> > > Yes, because it is reserved for POST codes. You can get "POST
> > > debugging cards" that simply have a BIN -> 7segement encoder and two 7
> > > segment displays on them. They decode 0x80. That's what it's for.
>
> > Again, if you want to change it, find another safe port, test the hell
> > out of it, an *PUBLICIZE IT* so noone will use it in the future.
>
> I may have missed too much of the discussion, but I thought that the
> idea was that some people noted that their POST-code-cards don't
> really work all that well when Linux is running because Linux keeps on
> sending garbage to port 0x80.
>
> You seem to state that if you want POST codes, you should find a
> different port, modify the code, test the hell out of it, and then
> submit the patch.
>
> That is NOT the right way to go about this: Port 0x80 is RESERVED for
> POST usage, that's why it's always free. If people want to use it for
> the original purpose then that is a pretty damn good reason to bump
> the non-intended users of that port somewhere else.
>
> Now, we've found that small delays are reasonably well generated with
> an "outb" to 0x80. So, indeed changing that to something else is going
> to be tricky.
>
> All that I can think of right now is:
> - Find a register that can be written without side effects in
> "standard" hardware like a keyboard controller, or interrupt
> controller. Especially good are ones that already require us to keep
> a shadow value. Write the shadow variable to the register.
> (Tricky: not interrupt safe!)
What about just remembering shadow of 0x80 and always writing shadow
to 0x80? Interrupt unsafety hopefully does not matter much....
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-01-29 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-25 21:46 Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT Ian S. Nelson
2001-01-25 22:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-25 22:31 ` Matthew Dharm
2001-01-25 22:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-25 22:41 ` Matthew Dharm
2001-01-25 22:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-25 23:08 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-25 23:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 13:58 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-26 16:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 17:54 ` David Welch
2001-01-29 2:35 ` Paul Gortmaker
2001-01-27 10:20 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-27 20:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-27 21:01 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-27 21:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-28 10:12 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-28 10:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-28 11:03 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-28 17:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-28 22:34 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-29 15:09 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-29 19:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-28 22:29 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-01-30 17:44 ` Mark H. Wood
2001-01-30 18:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-30 18:16 ` mirabilos
2001-01-30 18:36 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-30 18:41 ` mirabilos
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-26 15:41 Petr Vandrovec
2001-01-26 15:07 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-26 15:15 ` Mark Hahn
2001-01-26 15:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 16:03 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-26 16:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:42 Manfred Spraul
2001-01-26 16:07 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-26 16:33 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-27 12:28 ` Pavel Machek
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