* Re: [preview] VIA IDE 4.0 and AMD IDE 2.0 with automatic PC
@ 2001-02-09 17:29 Petr Vandrovec
2001-02-09 16:36 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-10 6:06 ` Andre Hedrick
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From: Petr Vandrovec @ 2001-02-09 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vojtech Pavlik; +Cc: linux-kernel, gandalf
On 9 Feb 01 at 16:58, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> Unfortunately the PCI speed measuring code needs help from the chipset
> itself, so it isn't possible to implement in generic code. Maybe a
> callback could be added to the chipset-specific drivers, though ...
>
> I do have some plans with ide-pci.c, so ...
Is not PCI speed determined by host-bridge setting (and not by IDE
interface)? In that case we should determine bus speed on PCI bus scan
using chipset specific drivers. Other non IDE devices, such as matroxfb,
may be interested in PCI speed too.
Best regards,
Petr Vandrovec
vandrove@vc.cvut.cz
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: [preview] VIA IDE 4.0 and AMD IDE 2.0 with automatic PC
2001-02-09 17:29 [preview] VIA IDE 4.0 and AMD IDE 2.0 with automatic PC Petr Vandrovec
@ 2001-02-09 16:36 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-10 13:30 ` Martin Mares
2001-02-10 14:21 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-10 6:06 ` Andre Hedrick
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From: Vojtech Pavlik @ 2001-02-09 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Petr Vandrovec; +Cc: linux-kernel, gandalf
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 05:29:52PM +0000, Petr Vandrovec wrote:
> > Unfortunately the PCI speed measuring code needs help from the chipset
> > itself, so it isn't possible to implement in generic code. Maybe a
> > callback could be added to the chipset-specific drivers, though ...
> >
> > I do have some plans with ide-pci.c, so ...
>
> Is not PCI speed determined by host-bridge setting (and not by IDE
> interface)?
I found no way of measuring the PCI speed than by doing an IDE PIO
transfer unfortunately. Measuring all other PCI transactions gives bad
results, because it is dependent on waitstates and other variables.
> In that case we should determine bus speed on PCI bus scan
> using chipset specific drivers. Other non IDE devices, such as matroxfb,
> may be interested in PCI speed too.
Not the case, sorry. An IDE drive is needed. However, it still might be
worth to pass the PCI speed to other drivers ...
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SuSE Labs
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* Re: [preview] VIA IDE 4.0 and AMD IDE 2.0 with automatic PC
2001-02-09 16:36 ` Vojtech Pavlik
@ 2001-02-10 13:30 ` Martin Mares
2001-02-10 14:21 ` Jonathan Morton
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From: Martin Mares @ 2001-02-10 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vojtech Pavlik; +Cc: Petr Vandrovec, linux-kernel, gandalf
Hello!
> Not the case, sorry. An IDE drive is needed. However, it still might be
> worth to pass the PCI speed to other drivers ...
But beware, the timing should be a per-bus value.
Have a nice fortnight
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* Re: [preview] VIA IDE 4.0 and AMD IDE 2.0 with automatic PC
2001-02-09 16:36 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-02-10 13:30 ` Martin Mares
@ 2001-02-10 14:21 ` Jonathan Morton
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From: Jonathan Morton @ 2001-02-10 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
>> Not the case, sorry. An IDE drive is needed. However, it still might be
>> worth to pass the PCI speed to other drivers ...
>
>But beware, the timing should be a per-bus value.
Indeed - remember the PowerMac G3 (blue & white) and the "Yikes" G4 have a
66MHz PCI slot in place of the AGP slot used in later G4s, with the
remaining 3 PCI slots being 33MHz 64-bit.
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* Re: [preview] VIA IDE 4.0 and AMD IDE 2.0 with automatic PC
2001-02-09 17:29 [preview] VIA IDE 4.0 and AMD IDE 2.0 with automatic PC Petr Vandrovec
2001-02-09 16:36 ` Vojtech Pavlik
@ 2001-02-10 6:06 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-10 9:03 ` Vojtech Pavlik
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From: Andre Hedrick @ 2001-02-10 6:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Petr Vandrovec; +Cc: Vojtech Pavlik, linux-kernel, gandalf
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Petr Vandrovec wrote:
> On 9 Feb 01 at 16:58, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately the PCI speed measuring code needs help from the chipset
> > itself, so it isn't possible to implement in generic code. Maybe a
> > callback could be added to the chipset-specific drivers, though ...
> >
> > I do have some plans with ide-pci.c, so ...
>
> Is not PCI speed determined by host-bridge setting (and not by IDE
> interface)? In that case we should determine bus speed on PCI bus scan
> using chipset specific drivers. Other non IDE devices, such as matroxfb,
> may be interested in PCI speed too.
that file will most likely go away in 2.5
Andre Hedrick
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* Re: [preview] VIA IDE 4.0 and AMD IDE 2.0 with automatic PC
2001-02-10 6:06 ` Andre Hedrick
@ 2001-02-10 9:03 ` Vojtech Pavlik
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From: Vojtech Pavlik @ 2001-02-10 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andre Hedrick; +Cc: Petr Vandrovec, linux-kernel, gandalf
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:06:39PM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > > Unfortunately the PCI speed measuring code needs help from the chipset
> > > itself, so it isn't possible to implement in generic code. Maybe a
> > > callback could be added to the chipset-specific drivers, though ...
> > >
> > > I do have some plans with ide-pci.c, so ...
> >
> > Is not PCI speed determined by host-bridge setting (and not by IDE
> > interface)? In that case we should determine bus speed on PCI bus scan
> > using chipset specific drivers. Other non IDE devices, such as matroxfb,
> > may be interested in PCI speed too.
>
> that file will most likely go away in 2.5
Good, it should.
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