* Inadmissible sound dropouts on 2.2.18
@ 2001-02-04 11:07 clock
2001-02-04 12:43 ` john slee
2001-02-10 22:32 ` Pavel Machek
0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: clock @ 2001-02-04 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
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I found that 2.2.18 probably rudely drops samples (lets ocassionally one sample
be played several times) on the Gravis Ultrasound output device. I use 2.2.18
and the native kernel drivers. I wrote this program that should produce a clean
sine tone. Instead I hear a sine interspaced with crackling. The crackling
repeats at 100Hz I guess. There runs nothing CPU-consuming. The sound process
takes 5% CPU. It's funny Linux drops sound samples just at 5% of CPU load. I
got AMD K6-2 3D 400Mhz at 400Mhz, 4*100MHz, running stably between 20-35 deg C
of case temperature. I got PCI / AGP board FIC VA-503+. There are three serial
ports, none of them was transceiving at that time. There is one ISA NE2000 NIC
which was not sending any packets. There is a ISA Gravis Ultrasound PnP. Two
IDE disks, one of them sleeping, the second spinning but nod reading/writing.
64MB of 100MHz DIMM SDRAM, which runs for years without problems. 1MB L2 cache.
AGP video card ATI. No X server running, no SVGAlib application running. No
USB peripherals.
The crackling is not dependent on the buffer size you can set up in the C code.
The crackling is dependent on the frequency of the sine. It's clearly audible
(read: annoying) at 10kHz, audible at 1kHz, inaudible at 100Hz. So I think
they are sample dropouts - the card stops playing and repeats one sample until
kernel gets the breath and whips itself up to supply next audio data.
There are no custom changes in the drivers - no buffer tweaking, nothing. The
Gravis plays modules, midules and mp3 with nearly no problems (apart from when
Loreena Mc Kennith sings too high and too loud, I hear something that looks like
MP3 frames bounds, but I can't surely tell who's responsible for this - if the
Fraunhofer Institute or Linux Kernel)
root@ghost:/usr/src/linux# cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.2.18 (root@ghost) (gcc version 2.95.2.1 19991024 (release)) #14
Mon Jan 29 15:14:27 MET 2001
Clock
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CFLAGS=-O3 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer
LDFLAGS=-s -lm
all: syncro beat
syncro: syncro.c
beat: beat.c
clean:
rm -f *.o core syncro beat
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#include <string.h>
#include <sys/soundcard.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <errno.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <math.h>
unsigned char errmsg[256];
int r;
int dsp;
int bits=16;
int channels;
int blocksize;
float left=10000;
float right=10000;
double left_angle=0;
double right_angle=0;
unsigned char buffer[65536];
void hum(void)
{
int a;
int val;
int remains;
unsigned char *ptr;
new_buffer:
ptr=buffer;
for (a=0;a<sizeof(buffer)/4;a++){
val=32767*sin(left_angle);
*ptr++=val&255;
*ptr++=val>>8;
val=32767*sin(right_angle);
*ptr++=val&255;
*ptr++=val>>8;
left_angle+=2*M_PI/44100*left;
if (left_angle>=2*M_PI) left_angle-=2*M_PI;
right_angle+=2*M_PI/44100*right;
if (right_angle>=2*M_PI) right_angle-=2*M_PI;
}
remains=sizeof(buffer);
ptr=buffer;
a2:
if (!remains) goto new_buffer;
val=write(dsp,ptr,remains);
if (val>=0){
remains-=val;
ptr+=val;
goto a2;
}
if (errno==EAGAIN||errno==EINTR) goto a2;
perror("beat");
exit(1);
}
/*-------------------------------MAIN---------------------------------------*/
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
int a;
again:
dsp=open("/dev/dsp",O_WRONLY);
if (dsp<0){
if (errno==EINTR||errno==EAGAIN) goto again;
}
if (r){
fprintf(stderr,"Can't open sound device.\n");
exit(1);
}
r=ioctl(dsp,SNDCTL_DSP_RESET,NULL);
if (r){
fprintf(stderr,"Can't reset sound device.\n");
exit(1);
}
a=44100;
r=ioctl(dsp,SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED,&a);
if (r){
fprintf(stderr,"Can't set 44100.\n");
exit(1);
}
a=1;
r=ioctl(dsp,SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO,&a);
if (r){
fprintf(stderr,"Can't set stereo.\n");
exit(1);
}
a=16;
r=ioctl(dsp,SOUND_PCM_WRITE_BITS,&a);
if (r){
fprintf(stderr,"Can't set 16bit.\n");
exit(1);
}
r=ioctl(dsp,SNDCTL_DSP_GETBLKSIZE,&blocksize);
if (r){
fprintf(stderr,"Can't get blocksize.\n");
exit(1);
}
r=ioctl(dsp,SNDCTL_DSP_SYNC,NULL);
if (r){
fprintf(stderr,"Can't sync device.\n");
exit(1);
}
hum();
return 0;
printf("Error setting up driver\n");
return 1;
}
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* Re: Inadmissible sound dropouts on 2.2.18
2001-02-04 11:07 Inadmissible sound dropouts on 2.2.18 clock
@ 2001-02-04 12:43 ` john slee
2001-02-10 22:32 ` Pavel Machek
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: john slee @ 2001-02-04 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: clock; +Cc: linux-kernel
On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 12:07:28PM +0100, clock@ghost.btnet.cz wrote:
> The crackling is not dependent on the buffer size you can set up in the C code.
> The crackling is dependent on the frequency of the sine. It's clearly audible
> (read: annoying) at 10kHz, audible at 1kHz, inaudible at 100Hz. So I think
> they are sample dropouts - the card stops playing and repeats one sample until
> kernel gets the breath and whips itself up to supply next audio data.
hrm, i just ran your test progam. i don't hear this on my gus classic /
celeron 533 / 320mb ram. at least nothing that *sounds* like crackling.
just a high pitched annoying noise. using 2.4.1 + andrew morton's
lowlatency patches. (which are wonderful, thanks andrew!)
jiggle the cable from the GUS to wherever it goes to.
j.
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* Re: Inadmissible sound dropouts on 2.2.18
2001-02-04 11:07 Inadmissible sound dropouts on 2.2.18 clock
2001-02-04 12:43 ` john slee
@ 2001-02-10 22:32 ` Pavel Machek
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2001-02-10 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: clock, linux-kernel
Hi!
> I found that 2.2.18 probably rudely drops samples (lets ocassionally one sample
> be played several times) on the Gravis Ultrasound output device. I use 2.2.18
> and the native kernel drivers. I wrote this program that should produce a clean
> sine tone. Instead I hear a sine interspaced with crackling. The crackling
> repeats at 100Hz I guess. There runs nothing CPU-consuming. The sound process
> takes 5% CPU. It's funny Linux drops sound samples just at 5% of CPU load. I
> got AMD K6-2 3D 400Mhz at 400Mhz, 4*100MHz, running stably between 20-35 deg C
> of case temperature. I got PCI / AGP board FIC VA-503+. There are three serial
> ports, none of them was transceiving at that time. There is one ISA
> NE2000 NIC
And receiving?
There are tools for measuring latency problems. Look at kernel archives.
> The crackling is not dependent on the buffer size you can set up in the C code.
> The crackling is dependent on the frequency of the sine. It's clearly audible
> (read: annoying) at 10kHz, audible at 1kHz, inaudible at 100Hz. So I think
> they are sample dropouts - the card stops playing and repeats one sample until
> kernel gets the breath and whips itself up to supply next audio
> data.
Or it is just Graivs driver bug...
> There are no custom changes in the drivers - no buffer tweaking, nothing. The
> Gravis plays modules, midules and mp3 with nearly no problems (apart from when
> Loreena Mc Kennith sings too high and too loud, I hear something that looks like
> MP3 frames bounds, but I can't surely tell who's responsible for this - if the
> Fraunhofer Institute or Linux Kernel)
;) Or maybe problem is in your application. Can you generate sample
file than "play" it with cat samples > /dev/dsp? You can do it on
different machines to learn if it is gravis or something else.
Pavel
PS: I think it is your app that is buggy. You write to soundcard, then
you do _lots_ of floating point computation, then you write
again.... If your computtation takes too long, you'll hear
cracking... Of course. You wrote latency critical app!
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