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From: Werner Almesberger <Werner.Almesberger@epfl.ch>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:11:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010213001123.D17129@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A885F72.ED9ADAE8@transmeta.com> <E14SRPp-0008J1-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E14SRPp-0008J1-00@the-village.bc.nu>; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:25:47PM +0000

Alan Cox wrote:
> Explain 'controlled buffer overrun'.

That's probably the ability to send new data even if there's unacked old
data (e.g. because the receiver can't keep up or because we've had losses).

Such a feature would be mainly useful in cases where data becomes useless
if too old, e.g. VoIP. Ironically, for the console, the opposite may be
true: if the kernel all of a sudden starts vomiting printks, the relevant
information is more likely to be at the beginning than at the end.

One advantage of TCP would be that such an implementation is more likely
to get congestion control right, so it would be safer to use over the
Internet. (And using UDP wouldn't make this any easier.) Also, when using
TCP, it's more likely that some reasonable session management is built
into the design.

BTW, as far as the boot loader is concerned: any of the Linux boots Linux
designs should nicely solve this, with the possible exception of
environments where a legacy OS needs to be booted. Reminds me that I should
find some time besides traffic control to work a bit on bootimg ...

- Werner

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-12 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-12 15:45 LILO and serial speeds over 9600 Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 16:53 ` Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 18:47   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 20:39     ` James Sutherland
2001-02-12 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 22:55         ` James Sutherland
2001-02-14 11:45           ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-12 21:52       ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 22:10         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 22:25           ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:11             ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2001-02-12 23:16               ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:27                   ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:53                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-13  0:11                       ` Alan Cox
2001-02-13  0:17                         ` Tim Wright
2001-02-13  0:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-13 10:51                             ` Alan Cox
2001-02-13 10:57                               ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13 12:55                                 ` Russell King
2001-02-13 13:56                                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13  0:25                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:35                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-12 23:51                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-13  0:24                       ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13  0:27                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:19             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:23               ` Alan Cox
2001-02-14 11:53               ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-17 17:26                 ` Patrick Michael Kane
2001-02-17 17:40                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-21  3:11                     ` Network console project (was: LILO and serial speeds over 9600) H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-21  9:29                       ` Network console project Jan-Benedict Glaw
2001-02-22 21:52                       ` Network console project (was: LILO and serial speeds over 9600) Pavel Machek
2001-02-23 15:54                         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-02-12 22:46         ` LILO and serial speeds over 9600 James Sutherland
2001-02-12 22:50           ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 18:51   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 19:49     ` Scott Laird
2001-02-12 23:17       ` Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 23:30         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-02-12 23:39         ` David Weinehall
2001-02-13  2:52         ` Michael Rothwell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0102131506230.30955-100000@lefty.dyndns.org>
2001-02-13  6:12 ` H. Peter Anvin

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