From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:03:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010217230349.A4561@convergence.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96lrau$dcd$1@forge.intermeta.de> <200102171337.f1HDbwh13232@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20010217201539.B13970@forge.intermeta.de>
In-Reply-To: <20010217201539.B13970@forge.intermeta.de>; from hps@intermeta.de on Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 08:15:39PM +0100
Thus spake Henning P . Schmiedehausen (hps@intermeta.de):
> "If a company does not write a driver which works on all hardware
> platforms in all cases and gives us the source, then it is better,
> that the company writes no drivers at all."
> "If I can't force a company to write a driver for everyone, then I
> don't want to write them any driver at all."
> IMHO you're like a spoiled kid: "If I can't have it, noone should have it".
Henning, what is the matter with you?
I bought the hardware. Why should I pay for the driver?
Not even on Windows you pay extra for a driver!
Please state your intentions. Why would you want to split the Linux
user base into people who pay companies to screw them (I get a driver
for hardware I already paid for, but the driver will work with exactly
one kernel version on one hardware) and people who think they deserve
support when they buy hardware?
Why do we even have to discuss drivers?
A company that actively hinders developing a good driver with patents,
NDAs or other legal crap does not deserve my money. If you throw your
money at such people, you deserve everything you get.
Felix
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-02-17 22:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-02-15 17:49 Linux stifles innovation fsnchzjr
2001-02-15 17:55 ` Stephen Frost
2001-02-15 18:04 ` Mark Haney
2001-02-15 19:49 ` David D.W. Downey
2001-02-15 20:20 ` Alan Olsen
2001-02-15 20:42 ` dave
2001-02-15 21:17 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-02-15 20:43 ` [OTP] " David D.W. Downey
2001-02-15 22:31 ` Bill Wendling
2001-02-15 22:37 ` William T Wilson
2001-02-16 12:45 ` Rik van Riel
2001-02-16 15:10 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-16 16:02 ` Mark Haney
2001-02-16 16:26 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-16 16:30 ` Mark Haney
2001-02-16 19:23 ` David D.W. Downey
2001-02-16 20:18 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-17 0:03 ` Carlos Fernandez Sanz
2001-02-17 0:35 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-17 0:41 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-17 1:52 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-17 2:20 ` XOR [ was: Linux stifles innovation... ] David Relson
2001-02-17 2:32 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-17 8:16 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-17 13:16 ` David Relson
2001-02-17 18:12 ` brian
2001-02-18 2:01 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-17 9:08 ` Linux stifles innovation James Sutherland
2001-02-17 12:45 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 9:05 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-17 0:04 ` LA Walsh
2001-02-16 9:26 ` Helge Hafting
2001-02-16 9:36 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-16 12:44 ` Helge Hafting
2001-02-16 17:40 ` Joseph Pingenot
2001-02-16 14:25 ` Andrew Scott
2001-02-16 19:48 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-02-16 22:27 ` Dennis
2001-02-16 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-17 12:37 ` [LONG RANT] " Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 13:37 ` Russell King
2001-02-17 19:15 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 22:03 ` Felix von Leitner [this message]
2001-02-18 11:54 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 12:26 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 13:43 ` Russell King
2001-02-18 9:27 ` Russell King
2001-02-17 19:20 ` Jacob Luna Lundberg
2001-02-18 1:06 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-02-18 4:15 ` Ben Ford
2001-02-17 18:48 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-19 9:24 ` Helge Hafting
2001-02-19 10:53 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-19 11:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 11:28 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-02-19 11:36 ` David Lang
2001-02-19 12:53 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-02-19 11:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 12:57 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-02-19 12:00 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-19 12:15 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-19 16:04 ` Paul Jakma
2001-02-19 16:07 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-19 14:15 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-20 23:39 ` Brian May
2001-02-19 11:59 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-19 13:11 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-19 14:07 ` David Howells
2001-02-19 14:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 15:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-19 16:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 19:11 ` The lack of specification (was Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation... ) Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-19 20:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-02-19 20:17 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-02-19 21:18 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-19 21:34 ` The lack of specification Russell King
2001-02-19 21:47 ` Eli Carter
2001-02-19 15:58 ` [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation Richard B. Johnson
2001-02-19 16:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 16:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-19 21:57 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-19 19:27 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-17 16:54 ` Francois Romieu
2001-02-16 22:31 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-16 22:51 ` David D.W. Downey
2001-02-16 22:59 ` Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.] John Cavan
2001-02-16 23:07 ` Linux stifles innovation Mike A. Harris
2001-02-16 23:45 ` Matt D. Robinson
2001-02-16 23:46 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-02-17 0:15 ` Matt D. Robinson
2001-02-17 0:34 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-17 0:54 ` Matt D. Robinson
2001-02-17 1:58 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-17 12:41 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 17:51 ` Robert Read
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010217145415.31128A-100000@orion.hq.dalalu.fr>
2001-02-17 18:40 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-16 23:33 ` Hristo Doichev
2001-02-17 0:01 ` Alan Olsen
2001-02-17 0:10 ` rjd
2001-02-17 1:34 ` Neal Dias
2001-02-17 2:05 ` Augustin Vidovic
2001-02-17 12:46 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 13:13 ` Roeland Th. Jansen
2001-02-21 23:00 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-02-21 23:17 ` Augustin Vidovic
2001-02-22 1:08 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-02-22 0:09 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-22 0:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-23 12:14 ` Wakko Warner
2001-02-23 12:31 ` David Weinehall
2001-02-27 8:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-02-17 7:20 ` Mike Pontillo
2001-02-17 16:11 ` [OT]Re: " Gregory Maxwell
2001-02-17 7:39 ` Vesselin Atanasov
2001-02-17 19:08 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 19:08 ` Mohammad A. Haque
2001-02-17 20:47 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-24 21:11 ` Dennis
2001-02-24 21:06 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-17 19:11 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 19:36 ` Francois Romieu
2001-02-17 20:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-17 19:24 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 19:38 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 20:01 ` Michael Bacarella
2001-02-17 20:11 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-02-17 19:56 ` Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.] Dennis
2001-02-17 20:28 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-18 11:25 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 15:32 ` John Cavan
2001-02-18 0:13 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-02-17 20:05 ` Linux stifles innovation Dennis
2001-02-17 20:05 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-02-17 20:14 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-18 10:57 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 20:28 ` Alan Olsen
2001-02-21 23:48 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-02-17 22:07 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-02-17 20:08 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 20:22 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-17 20:41 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-02-18 10:59 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 21:02 ` Bob Taylor
2001-02-17 22:38 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-17 23:07 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-18 15:20 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2001-02-18 0:51 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-02-16 17:25 ` Byron Albert
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