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From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: sean@dev.sportingbet.com, Jesse Pollard <jesse@cats-chateau.net>
Cc: Shawn Starr <spstarr@sh0n.net>,
	Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Disturbing news..
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:31:01 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200103281531.JAA46448@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)

Sean Hunter <sean@dev.sportingbet.com>:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 06:08:15AM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> > Sure - very simple. If the execute bit is set on a file, don't allow
> > ANY write to the file. This does modify the permission bits slightly
> > but I don't think it is an unreasonable thing to have.
> > 
> 
> Are we not then in the somewhat zen-like state of having an "rm" which can't
> "rm" itself without needing to be made non-executable so that it can't execute?

We've been in that state for a long time... (carefull updating that libc.so
file... can't overwrite/delete without having some REAL problems show up.)

It just calls for some carefull activity. If rm is being replaced, first
rename it; then put new one in place; chmod old; delete old. It is directly
comparable to the libc.so update procedure.

I should have left off the "very simple" remark.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil

Any opinions expressed are solely my own.

             reply	other threads:[~2001-03-28 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-28 15:31 Jesse Pollard [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-29 17:10 Disturbing news Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 15:51 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 15:54 ` rmk
2001-03-28 21:19   ` Gerhard Mack
2001-03-28 15:43 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 14:43 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 14:40 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 15:08 ` Russell King
2001-03-29 12:05 ` Walter Hofmann
2001-03-28 14:15 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 14:53 ` Russell King
2001-03-28  5:52 Ideas for the oom problem Jonathan Morton
2001-03-28  6:16 ` Disturbing news Shawn Starr
2001-03-28  7:19   ` Matti Aarnio
2001-03-28  7:27     ` Shawn Starr
2001-03-28 12:08       ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28  5:50         ` Ben Ford
2001-03-28 12:50         ` Walter Hofmann
2001-03-28 14:04           ` Simon Williams
2001-03-28 15:04             ` Olivier Galibert
2001-03-28 15:49               ` Simon Williams
2001-03-28 11:57                 ` Ben Ford
2001-03-29  8:02                   ` Helge Hafting
2001-03-28 17:51                 ` Olivier Galibert
2001-03-28 12:53         ` Keith Owens
2001-03-28 13:00         ` Russell King
2001-03-28 14:10         ` Sean Hunter
2001-03-28 15:36           ` john slee
2001-03-28 16:18             ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-02 23:10         ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-03-28 17:29       ` Horst von Brand
2001-03-28 10:00   ` Helge Hafting
2001-03-28 13:25   ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-28 14:32     ` Romano Giannetti
2001-03-28 14:57       ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2001-03-28 14:57       ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-28 16:14         ` Romano Giannetti

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