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From: Tim Haynes <kernel@vegetable.org.uk>
To: Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org>
Cc: Andreas Rogge <lu01@rogge.yi.org>, james <jdickens@ameritech.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Ideas for the oom problem
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:47:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010329004740.M28274@emcuk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64000000.985795007@hades> <200103282333.f2SNX4Q06854@habitrail.home.fools-errant.com>
In-Reply-To: <200103282333.f2SNX4Q06854@habitrail.home.fools-errant.com>; from hacksaw@hacksaw.org on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 06:33:04PM -0500

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 06:33:04PM -0500, Hacksaw wrote:

> > Anyone working as root is (sorry) an idiot! root's processes are normally
> > quite system-relevant and so they should never be killed, if we can avoid 
> > it.
> 
> The real world intrudes. Root sometimes needs to look at documentation,
> which, these days is often available as html. Sometimes it's only as html.
> And people in a panic who aren't trained sys-admins aren't going to remember
> to log in as someone else.

Why are they logged in as root in the first place? Is there something they
can't do over sudo?
I definitely remember seeing a document saying `if you find yourself needing to
`man foo', do it in another terminal as your non-root self'; it might or might
not've been the SAG.

In any case, what happened to `if you use this rope you will hang yourself'?
There has to be a point where you abandon catering for all kinds of fool and
get on with writing something useful, I think.

> I completely agree that doing general work as root is a bad idea. I do most
> root things via sudo. It sure would be nice if all the big dists supplied it
> (Hey, RedHat! You listening?) as part of their normal set.

RH have been listening since v7.0.

~Tim

  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-28 23:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-27 21:29 [PATCH] mm/memory.c, 2.4.1 : memory leak with swap cache (updated) Richard Jerrell
2001-03-27 21:18 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-27 23:10   ` Richard Jerrell
2001-03-27 22:57     ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-28  0:53   ` Ideas for the oom problem james
2001-03-28  0:52     ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-28  1:14       ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-28  3:21         ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-28  3:41           ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-28  3:53             ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-28  1:39       ` james
2001-03-28  5:52     ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-28  6:16       ` Disturbing news Shawn Starr
2001-03-28  6:33         ` Disturbing news.. Idea Shawn Starr
2001-04-21  0:43           ` Serious Latency problems : 2.4.4-pre5 Shawn Starr
2001-03-28  7:19         ` Disturbing news Matti Aarnio
2001-03-28  7:27           ` Shawn Starr
2001-03-28 12:08             ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28  5:50               ` Ben Ford
2001-03-28 12:50               ` Walter Hofmann
2001-03-28 14:04                 ` Simon Williams
2001-03-28 15:04                   ` Olivier Galibert
2001-03-28 15:49                     ` Simon Williams
2001-03-28 11:57                       ` Ben Ford
2001-03-29  8:02                         ` Helge Hafting
2001-03-28 17:51                       ` Olivier Galibert
2001-03-28 12:53               ` Keith Owens
2001-03-28 13:00               ` Russell King
2001-03-28 14:10               ` Sean Hunter
2001-03-28 15:36                 ` john slee
2001-03-28 16:18                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-02 23:10               ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-03-28 17:29             ` Horst von Brand
2001-03-28 10:00         ` Helge Hafting
2001-03-28 13:25         ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-28 14:32           ` Romano Giannetti
2001-03-28 14:57             ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2001-03-28 14:57             ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-28 16:14               ` Romano Giannetti
2001-03-28 14:38     ` Ideas for the oom problem Hacksaw
2001-03-28 15:56       ` Andreas Rogge
2001-03-28 23:33         ` Hacksaw
2001-03-28 23:47           ` Tim Haynes [this message]
2001-03-29  0:12             ` Hacksaw
2001-03-27 21:51 ` [PATCH] mm/memory.c, 2.4.1 : memory leak with swap cache (updated) Linus Torvalds

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