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From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: dwguest@win.tue.nl, Sean Hunter <sean-lk@dev.sportingbet.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: OOM killer???
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:22:33 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200103291622.KAA67155@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)

Guest section DW <dwguest@win.tue.nl>:
> 
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 01:02:38PM +0100, Sean Hunter wrote:
> 
> > The reason the aero engineers don't need to select a passanger to throw out
> > when the plane is overloaded is simply that the plane operators do not allow
> > the plane to become overloaded.
> 
> Yes. But today Linux willing overcommits. It would be better if
> the default was not to.

Preferably, the default should be a configure option, with runtime
alterations.

> > Furthermore, why do you suppose an aeroplane has more than one altimeter,
> > artifical horizon and compass?  Do you think it's because they are unable to
> > make one of each that is reliable?  Or do you think its because they are
> > concerned about what happens if one fails _however unlikely that is_.
> 
> Unix V6 did not overcommit, and panicked if is was out of swap
> because that was a cannot happen situation.

Ummm... no. The user got "ENOMEM" or "insufficient memory for fork", or
"swap error". The system didn't panic unless there was an I/O error on
the swap device.

> If you argue that we must design things so that there is no overcommit
> and still have an OOM killer just in case, I have no objections at all.

good.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil

Any opinions expressed are solely my own.

             reply	other threads:[~2001-03-29 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-29 16:22 Jesse Pollard [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-29 19:20 OOM killer??? Jesse Pollard
     [not found] <200103282138.f2SLcT824292@webber.adilger.int>
2001-03-29  9:29 ` Dr. Michael Weller
2001-03-29 11:01   ` Guest section DW
2001-03-29 12:02     ` Sean Hunter
2001-03-29 12:57       ` Guest section DW
2001-03-29 15:41     ` David Konerding
2001-03-29 17:52       ` David Lang
2001-03-30  2:26       ` Michael Peddemors
2001-03-30 14:48         ` J. Scott Kasten
2001-03-29 17:21     ` Stephen Satchell
2001-03-29 13:53   ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-29 15:01     ` Dr. Michael Weller
2001-03-29 16:29       ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-29 16:51       ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-27 10:59 Rogier Wolff
2001-03-27 12:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-27 13:24   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-27 15:31     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-03-27 18:08     ` Ingo Oeser
2001-03-27 19:07       ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-27 19:55         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-03-27 21:13           ` Andreas Rogge
2001-03-27 18:37     ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-27 13:57   ` Jonathan Morton

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