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From: R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl (Rogier Wolff)
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>,
	Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tytso@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Larger dev_t
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:08:51 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200104040808.KAA27469@cave.bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E14kQ55-0007zD-00@the-village.bc.nu> from Alan Cox at "Apr 3, 2001 01:38:40 pm"

Alan Cox wrote:
> > What's worth it to be able running 2.0 and 2.4 on the same box?
> > I just intendid to tell you that there are actually people in the
> > REAL BUSINESS out there who know about and are willing to sacifier
> > compatibility until perpetuum for contignouus developement.
 
> And many people who require the ability to drop back one or two
> versions (major versions) on a problem. Every upgrade requires a
> getout path

Right. So if we go to 64 bits NOW (in 2.4), then when after 3.2 we
actually start needing > 16 bits of dev_t everyone can downgrade to
2.0, except those people who use drivers that require those extra
bits.

The further away from "the deadline" that we switch, the easier it
becomes to provide a smooth upgrade path. When we have 65536 devices
in use, when we finally switch, you can bet your ass we'll be using
the "new" device number space right away. However, if we're still
comfortable with the 16 bits, we can upgrade the infrastructure ASAP,
and make the "no return" switch later. Much later.

				Roger. 

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-04  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-27  9:29 Larger dev_t Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-27 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-27 19:28   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-27 19:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-27 21:21       ` Alan Cox
2001-03-27 21:35         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-27 22:02           ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-27 23:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-28 21:23               ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-28 21:40                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-28 21:44                 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-27 22:16           ` Alan Cox
2001-03-27 22:16             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-27 22:43               ` Russell King
2001-03-28 16:59                 ` Jeff Randall
2001-03-28  0:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-28  0:10               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-28  0:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-28  2:19               ` Alan Cox
2001-03-28  7:08                 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-28 21:32                 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-29  3:53                   ` Alan Cox
2001-03-29 11:02                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-02 20:02                       ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03  7:25                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-03 12:19                           ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 12:13                             ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-03 12:38                               ` Alan Cox
2001-04-04  8:08                                 ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2001-03-30  6:54                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-03-28 21:18             ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-27 22:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-27 22:55           ` Dan Hollis
2001-03-27 22:58             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-27 23:42               ` Richard Gooch
2001-03-28  1:03             ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-28  1:35               ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-27 23:44           ` Andrew Pimlott
2001-03-28  0:28             ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-03-28  3:58           ` Johan Kullstam
2001-03-28  4:23             ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-28 11:57             ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 18:13               ` Oliver Neukum
2001-03-28 19:05                 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 19:50                   ` Oliver Neukum
2001-03-28 21:36             ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-28 21:09           ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-28 21:24             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-28 21:46               ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-28 20:54     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-28 11:52   ` Pjotr Kourzanoff
2001-03-28 12:11   ` Tim Jansen
2001-03-27 19:27 ` Albert D. Cahalan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-03 14:48 Wayne.Brown
2001-04-03 15:34 ` Bart Trojanowski
2001-04-02 21:59 Andries.Brouwer
2001-04-02 20:17 Andries.Brouwer
2001-04-02 21:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03  7:28 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-03 10:09 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-03 12:06   ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 12:20     ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-03 12:15       ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-03 12:53         ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 16:05           ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-03 16:34             ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-03 16:58               ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-03 16:54             ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 17:02               ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-03 12:41       ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 23:28       ` Tim Wright
2001-03-27 22:38 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-27 22:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-26 21:18 John Byrne
2001-03-26 22:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-26 23:41 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-25 12:31 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-25 15:35 ` Wichert Akkerman
2001-03-25 16:15   ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2001-03-25 16:54     ` Michel Wilson
2001-03-25 17:12       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-03-25 17:00     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-25 17:07     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-03-25 17:37       ` Michel Wilson
2001-03-25 18:21   ` Guest section DW
2001-03-25 20:50     ` diego
2001-03-25 17:55 ` Gerry
2001-03-27  6:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-24 16:13 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-24 14:25 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-24 14:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-03-24 15:00   ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-25 14:22   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25  3:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-25 14:35   ` Martin Dalecki

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