From: klink@clouddancer.com (Colonel)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: goodbye
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 19:07:20 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010408020720.55CC8683B@mail.clouddancer.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ao861$f1$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104031800030.14090-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <20010404012102Z131724-406+7418@vger.kernel.org> <20010408023228.L805@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <20010404012102Z131724-406+7418@vger.kernel.org>; from michael@linuxmagic.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700 <9ao861$f1$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
In list.kernel, you wrote:
>
>On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote:
>> I think that this is one list where we have to keep the ability to post
>> from individuals separate from the need to make sure that their ISP or
>> company is compliant to a set a of rules.. The LKML can't toe the
>> strictest of lines, without loosing some possibly valuable
>> contributors..
>
> Well, comparing how much spam goes thru linux-mm vs. linux-kernel,
> I would say our methods are fairly effective.
A stupid measure, since you cannot determine what was rejected, i.e. how
many babies you threw out with the bathwater.
> The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post
> straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers
> for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all.
Some ISPs rely on crap software & OS to process email, and have other
bad habits besides. Censorship usually does more bad than good
(especially since dealing with 80% of the spam is trivial for
procmail), as has been pointed out in this case. The stupidity of the
this approach is well shown by the email-blacklist groups blacklisting
each other, I would think that lkml had more brains.
Controlling email is a power game, where you set yourself up as a tin
god and proclaim that you alone know what is safe for the "dumb"
masses to read. Perhaps the lkml sheep will abide by such control, but
I would think that 'free software' would have 'free discussions'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-08 2:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-03 21:01 goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-04 1:14 ` goodbye Michael Peddemors
2001-04-07 23:32 ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-08 4:09 ` goodbye Ralf Baechle
2001-04-08 4:17 ` goodbye David Fries
2001-04-12 21:31 ` goodbye Mike Fedyk
2001-04-08 5:10 ` goodbye kumon
[not found] ` <20010408011915.A14899@whitestar.soark.net>
2001-04-08 5:31 ` goodbye kumon
2001-04-08 10:22 ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-08 11:50 ` goodbye kumon
2001-04-08 13:56 ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08 18:00 ` goodbye Davide Libenzi
2001-04-08 22:10 ` goodbye David Woodhouse
2001-04-09 19:12 ` goodbye Alan Cox
2001-04-09 19:36 ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08 5:58 ` goodbye Graham Murray
2001-04-08 6:19 ` goodbye Aaron Lehmann
2001-04-08 10:58 ` goodbye Olaf Titz
2001-04-09 4:33 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 4:51 ` goodbye David S. Miller
2001-04-09 5:50 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 6:47 ` goodbye Richard Gooch
2001-04-09 12:58 ` goodbye Billy Harvey
2001-04-09 17:58 ` goodbye || alternatives David
2001-04-09 22:00 ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-09 22:00 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 23:40 ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-10 0:46 ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 19:30 ` goodbye Alan Cox
2001-04-09 19:20 ` [OT] goodbye Michael Peddemors
2001-04-09 21:34 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-04-09 22:23 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-04-09 22:58 ` David
[not found] ` <9ao861$f1$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
2001-04-08 2:07 ` Colonel [this message]
2001-04-08 2:56 ` goodbye john slee
2001-04-08 4:02 ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-08 13:22 ` goodbye Jeff Mcadams
2001-04-08 13:22 ` goodbye David Woodhouse
2001-04-08 15:41 ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-08 4:46 ` goodbye Stephen Satchell
2001-04-08 13:26 ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08 19:15 ` goodbye Ben Ford
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-03 21:56 Goodbye Matthew Fredrickson
2001-04-03 22:21 ` Goodbye Ion Badulescu
2001-04-09 14:22 goodbye Wayne.Brown
2001-04-09 14:28 ` goodbye David Woodhouse
2001-04-09 17:57 ` goodbye Stephen E. Clark
2001-04-09 15:12 goodbye Wayne.Brown
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