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From: esr@thyrsus.com
To: davej@suse.de
Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: CML2 1.0.0 release announcement
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:20:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010411182034.A8733@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200104101047.f3AAl0h07395@snark.thyrsus.com> <Pine.LNX.4.31.0104112013010.25121-100000@athlon>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0104112013010.25121-100000@athlon>; from davej@suse.de on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:43:57PM +0100

davej@suse.de <davej@suse.de>:
> One of the first things I noticed was it seems noticably slower
> than CML1. A make menuconfig in CML1 takes me into the menu
> in under a second. (On an already compiled tree).
> CML2 takes around 15 seconds before I get that far.
> This is on an Athlon 800 w/512MB. I dread to think how this
> responds on a 486.

Yes, I know I have some speed-tuning to do.

> Scrolling the cursor bar in menuconfig causes a lot of flickering
> as the entire screen seems to be redrawn. This is becomes unusable
> after a few minutes usage. Scrolling under CML1's menuconfig doesn't
> show this behaviour.

That's odd.  I see no screen flicker at all when I scroll my menu bar.
I wonder what's different about your environment.  You're running under
SuSE, I presume -- perhaps you have an older ncurses version?

> The various colours used to show submenus that have been visited
> seems confusing, and unnecessary. Their meaning also seems undocumented.

I'll document them.  They're intended to help you track what portions
of the configuration you've already done.
 
> Top level menu seems to have gained a few items.
> For example, the `SCSI support' item has disappeared,
> making `SCSI disk support' and `SCSI low-level drivers'
> both appear on the top level menu.

The SCSI support flag is in the buses menu.  You see these two menus because
the defconfig sets it on.
 
> For some reason, the kernel hacking menu doesn't show
> 4/5 of the options that it used to. Instead it replaces
> them with one new one (Disable VHPT). Which it seems to
> picking up from the IA64 tree. Most strange.

Ah.  That's because I didn't have an `unless ia64 suppress DISABLE_VHPT'
I've added that.

A lot of the stuff that used to be under that menu moved to archihacks,
I think.
 
> Finally, quitting the program (q twice) gives me this..
> python2 -O scripts/configtrans.py -h include/linux/autoconf.h -s .config
> config.out
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "scripts/configtrans.py", line 104, in ?
>     sys.stderr.write(args[0]);
> TypeError: read-only character buffer, int
> make: *** [menuconfig] Error 1

I can't reproduce this.  Do you get the same behavior under 1.0.3?
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-11 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-10 10:47 CML2 1.0.0 release announcement Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-10 12:14 ` Russell King
2001-04-11 19:43 ` davej
2001-04-11 20:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-04-11 20:16     ` Dave Jones
2001-04-11 20:27       ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-04-11 22:23         ` Alan Cox
2001-04-11 23:19           ` esr
2001-04-11 23:30             ` Alan Cox
2001-04-11 23:33             ` Alan Cox
2001-04-12  0:45               ` esr
     [not found]                 ` <3AD4FC54.C86AACBE@mandrakesoft.com>
2001-04-12  1:28                   ` esr
2001-04-12  1:43                 ` CML2 1.0.0 doesn't remember configuration changes jeff millar
2001-04-12  2:50                   ` esr
2001-04-12  5:35                     ` jeff millar
2001-04-12  2:06                       ` esr
2001-04-12 21:20                         ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-14  2:11                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-14  2:29                             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-14  4:33                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-04-12 10:45                 ` CML2 1.0.0 release announcement Alan Cox
2001-04-11 22:20   ` esr [this message]
2001-04-12  7:09 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-12  8:57   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-12 10:57   ` esr
     [not found] <fa.i13tmhv.9kga3t@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.g0offov.1jmmkh9@ifi.uio.no>
2001-04-12  8:50   ` Giacomo Catenazzi

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