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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@ldl.fc.hp.com>,
	james rich <james.rich@m.cc.utah.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org
Subject: Proposal for better attribution structure
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:52:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010420205246.A22693@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010420195004.A5510@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <200104202123.f3KLNWSm031572@webber.adilger.int>
In-Reply-To: <200104202123.f3KLNWSm031572@webber.adilger.int>; from adilger@turbolinux.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:23:32PM -0600

Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>:
> One of the issues for contacting each MAINTAINER is that this information
> is out-of-line from the actual kernel tree.  The other is that the
> description of what a maintainer is actually controlling is somewhat
> vague.

I strongly agree.  I first tripped over this problem when I was trying
to identify the responsible parties for [Cc]onfig.in files.  It's
biting me again now that I'm trying to clean up the CONFIG_ space.
It's one that's going to cause grief for anybody trying to do *global*
work on the kernel, stuff that crosses boundaries between maintainer
jurisdictions.  
 
> How about the following:
> - each directory has a MAINTAINERS file which lists parties with a
>   vested interest in files in that directory (format is mostly the
>   same as current)
> - subdirectories which don't have a MAINTAINERS file use the MAINTAINERS
>   file of the parent (or grandparent) directory
> - each maintainer entry explicitly lists each file/directory that this
>   person is interested in, maybe "F: {file | directory} ...".
> 
> I'm sure Eric can come up with a simple program to parse the MAINTAINER
> file/tree.  If the program takes a kernel-tree relative filename and
> spit out the name/email of the relevant maintainer (subsystem and port
> specific mailing lists should also be included), that would make the 
> job of finding out who to send patches to a whole lot easier.

The spirit of this proposal is, IMO, excellent.  I like the idea that if
maintainer information for a particular piece of the hierarchy doesn't
exist, you float up to the next higher level.  Search always ends at
the root MAINTAINERS file.

And I could indeed write a program such as Andreas describes, and would
be most willing to do so.

I have one objection, however.  I think the maintainers information
should normally be inline of the file in question, so there won't
be a need for an explicit F: link that could become invalid.  So I
think the search order should look like this:

	1. Look for maintainer markup in the file itself.
	2. Then look for a NAINTAINERS file in the current directory.
	3. Then look upwards for MAINTAINERS files in enclosing directories.

> My one gripe about the MAINTAINERS file is that it still lists Remy
> Card as EXT2 maintainer, so we would probably need to do a find on
> the whole kernel tree, email each address a list of files that they
> "maintain" and wait until they complain, agree, or time out.  Once
> the database is up-to-date, it simplifies the job of keeping maintainers
> (and other interested parties) in the loop.

I have until 6 May at least to work on this, if there is consensus that it's
a good idea.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no
rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.
        -- Miranda vs. Arizona, 384 US 436 p. 491

  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-21  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-20  2:36 OK, let's try cleaning up another nit. Is anyone paying attention? Matthew Wilcox
2001-04-20  3:00 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20  3:17   ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-04-20  4:07     ` james rich
2001-04-20  4:19       ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-04-20  4:52         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-20  5:17           ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-20 13:13           ` [parisc-linux] " Alan Cox
2001-04-20 13:35             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 13:43               ` Alan Cox
2001-04-20 13:53                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 14:03                   ` Alan Cox
2001-04-20 14:19                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 14:44                       ` Alan Cox
2001-04-20 14:59                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 15:51                           ` Tom Rini
2001-04-20 16:06                             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-20 16:15                               ` Bob McElrath
2001-04-20 16:21                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-04-20 19:00                                   ` Jeff Dike
2001-04-20 18:47                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-04-20 21:55                                       ` Jeff Dike
2001-04-20 18:53                                     ` Jes Sorensen
2001-04-20 16:26                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-20 16:35                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-04-20 16:50                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 19:08                                 ` Russell King
2001-04-21  3:08                                   ` Tom Leete
2001-04-21  8:53                                     ` [parisc-linux] Re: OK, let's try cleaning up another nit. Is anyone rmk
2001-04-20 18:20                               ` [parisc-linux] Re: OK, let's try cleaning up another nit. Is anyone paying attention? Tom Rini
2001-04-20 18:48                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-04-20 18:55                                   ` Tom Rini
2001-04-20 21:19                                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-20 21:24                                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 21:29                                     ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-20 21:35                                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 22:53                                         ` Alan Cox
2001-04-21  0:37                                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-21 23:39                                             ` Jes Sorensen
2001-04-21 12:32                                           ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-23 21:12                                             ` [patch] fix broken symbols (was Re: OK, let's try ...) Arjan van de Ven
2001-04-20 21:39                                       ` [parisc-linux] Re: OK, let's try cleaning up another nit. Is anyone paying attention? David Woodhouse
2001-04-21  0:24                                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 18:50                           ` Russell King
2001-04-20 21:23                             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-04-21  0:52                               ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2001-04-20  8:19       ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-20 19:47     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 20:00       ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-04-20 20:13         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 20:55       ` Alan Cox
2001-04-21  6:48       ` [parisc-linux] " Grant Grundler
2001-04-21 14:52         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-20 13:08   ` Alan Cox
2001-04-20 13:18     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-07-29 10:47     ` Riley Williams

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