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From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, cat@zip.com.au (CaT)
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox),
	viro@math.psu.edu (Alexander Viro),
	mhaque@haque.net (Mohammad A. Haque),
	ttel5535@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	mharris@opensourceadvocate.org (Mike A. Harris),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:02:48 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200104241702.MAA00717@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E14s57p-0002LM-00@the-village.bc.nu>

---------  Received message begins Here  ---------

> 
> > 1. email -> sendmail
> > 2. sendmail figures out what it has to do with it. turns out it's deliver
> ...
> 
> > Now, in order for step 4 to be done safely, procmail should be running
> > as the user it's meant to deliver the mail for. for this to happen
> > sendmail needs to start it as that user in step 3 and to do that it
> > needs extra privs, above and beyond that of a normal user.
> 
> 	email -> sendmail
> 	sendmail 'its local' -> spool
> 
> user:
> 	get_mail | procmail
> 	mutt
> 
> The mail server doesnt need to run procmail. If you wanted to run mail batches
> through on a regular basis you can use cron for it, or leave a daemon running

And get_mail must have elevated privileges to search for the users mail...
or sendmail must have already switched user on reciept to put it in the
users inbox which also requires privleges...

And an additional daemon (owned by the user) is yet another attack point...

Cron could be used to batch message handling... as long as it runs before
the users quota is used up. This becomes the same as using IMAP or fetchmail
to download it.

It's much more efficent to process each mail as it arrives.

All this does is move the program that requires privileges to somewhere
else. It doesn't eliminate it.

Granted, sendmail could use a better implementation of a security model.

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Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil

Any opinions expressed are solely my own.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-24 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0103181407520.1426-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>
2001-03-18 14:43 ` changing mm->mmap_sem (was: Re: system call for process information?) Rik van Riel
2001-03-18 18:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-24 11:44     ` [PATCH] Single user linux imel96
2001-04-24 12:04       ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 12:44         ` imel96
2001-04-24 12:58           ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-24 13:27             ` imel96
2001-04-24 13:38               ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-24 14:04                 ` problem found (was Re: [PATCH] Single user linux) imel96
2001-04-24 14:06                   ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-24 14:47                     ` Xavier Bestel
2001-04-25 18:13                   ` Paul Jakma
2001-04-25  0:01                 ` [PATCH] Single user linux Aaron Lehmann
2001-04-25  0:07                   ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-25  0:16                     ` Alan Cox
2001-04-25  0:34                       ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-25  0:52                         ` Gerhard Mack
2001-04-25  7:46                           ` Ronald Bultje
2001-04-25 14:17                             ` Disconnect
2001-04-27 20:06                               ` Jim Gettys
2001-04-26 19:41                           ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-27 19:00                             ` Erik Mouw
2001-04-27 13:12                         ` Robert Varga
2001-04-27 12:42                           ` [OT] linux on pda was " Collectively Unconscious
2001-04-27 19:05                             ` Erik Mouw
2001-04-27 13:34                           ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-25  0:20                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-04-25  0:32                       ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-25  0:35                         ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-04-25  0:43                           ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-25  7:45                         ` Alan Cox
2001-04-25  7:55                           ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-25 15:07                           ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-25 14:42                         ` Jordan Crouse
2001-04-26 19:47                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-25  1:12                       ` Disconnect
2001-04-25  0:26                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-25  7:13                     ` Mike A. Harris
2001-04-26 19:54                       ` agenda & vtech helio [was Re: [PATCH] Single user linux] Pavel Machek
2001-04-25  7:04                   ` [PATCH] Single user linux Mike A. Harris
2001-04-26 19:35                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-27 14:26                   ` Daniel Stone
2001-04-24 13:40               ` Mohammad A. Haque
2001-04-25  5:29               ` Ben Ford
2001-04-24 12:59           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 13:02           ` Sean Hunter
2001-04-24 13:03           ` Roland Seuhs
2001-04-24 13:50             ` Mike A. Harris
2001-04-24 13:13           ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-24 13:37             ` imel96
2001-04-25  7:57               ` Helge Hafting
2001-04-25 10:42               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-24 14:03           ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 14:10             ` imel96
2001-04-24 14:27               ` Mike A. Harris
2001-04-24 14:30               ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 15:07             ` Jeremy Jackson
2001-04-24 17:43           ` Russell King
2001-04-24 18:37           ` Garett Spencley
2001-04-24 12:51       ` Mohammad A. Haque
2001-04-24 13:07         ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 12:52       ` [OFFTOPIC] " Mike A. Harris
2001-04-24 13:18         ` Tomas Telensky
2001-04-24 13:34           ` Mohammad A. Haque
2001-04-24 13:40             ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 14:18               ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 14:22                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 14:37                   ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 14:41                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 14:47                     ` CaT
2001-04-24 14:59                       ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 15:11                         ` CaT
2001-04-24 15:53                           ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 16:04                             ` Alex Riesen
2001-04-24 17:02                             ` Jesse Pollard [this message]
2001-04-24 17:16                               ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 17:30                             ` Markus Schaber
2001-04-24 14:30                 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-04-24 14:49                   ` Pjotr Kourzanoff
2001-04-24 14:56                     ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-04-24 14:59                     ` CaT
2001-04-24 15:17                       ` Pjotr Kourzanoff
2001-04-24 14:50                 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-04-24 15:00                   ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 13:37           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 13:52             ` Tomas Telensky
2001-04-24 14:07               ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-24 19:03           ` David Gómez 
2001-04-25  5:26           ` Ben Ford
2001-04-24 17:55       ` J Sloan
2001-04-24 17:06     ` Stephen Satchell
2001-04-24 15:11 [OFFTOPIC] " Jesse Pollard

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