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From: R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl (Rogier Wolff)
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
	Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>,
	Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
	Goswin Brederlow <goswin.brederlow@student.uni-tuebingen.de>,
	William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>,
	Matt_Domsch@Dell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4 and 2GB swap partition limit
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:25:19 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200104282125.XAA05744@cave.bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0104281111470.15628-100000@dlang.diginsite.com> from David Lang at "Apr 28, 2001 11:21:26 am"

David Lang wrote:
> at the low end useing a bit of disk for swap doesn't hurt, I ran into a
> case a couple years ago on AIX systems. we buy them with 2G ram so that we
> don't need to swap, but discovered (the hard way) that we also needed to
> allocate 4G of disk space for those boxes (allocating less then 2G meant
> that we couldn't use the 2G of RAM). This meant that we had to go out and
> buy 2nd hard drives for every machine, just to put the swap files on.
> 
> now disks are larger today so it's not as much of an issue, but even with
> modern 9-18G drives you can end up eating up 20% or more on a large
> machine, this starts to be significant. you can try to say that any box
> with that much ram must have lots of disk as well, and most of the time
> you will be right, but not all the time. there are cases (webservers for
> example) where the machines will be built with lots of RAM and CPU and
> little disk becouse they get all their content and put all their logs
> elsewhere on the network. in fact with the advances in flash size and the
> desire to create high performance clusters, I would not be surprised to
> see web node machines produced with no hard drives. it means one less
> thing that can break on the system (think a rack of transmeta powered
> boxes with no moving parts in the rack except possibly fans)

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl wrote:

> > I've ALWAYS said that it's a rule-of-thumb. This means that if you
> > have a good argument to do it differently, you should surely do so!

Roger. 


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  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-28 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-02 21:23 2.4 and 2GB swap partition limit Matt_Domsch
2001-03-02 23:52 ` Kenneth Johansson
2001-03-03  6:14 ` William T Wilson
2001-03-03 11:14   ` Rogier Wolff
2001-03-08 13:05     ` Goswin Brederlow
2001-04-27 10:51       ` Xavier Bestel
2001-04-27 11:13         ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-27 20:52           ` LA Walsh
2001-04-27 21:44             ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-27 22:06               ` Thomas Dodd
2001-04-27 22:40               ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-27 22:40                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-29 15:12                 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-27 22:44               ` LA Walsh
2001-04-28  7:47             ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-27 22:22           ` Wakko Warner
2001-04-28 13:17             ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-28 13:37               ` Wakko Warner
2001-04-28 14:11                 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-28 14:28                   ` J . A . Magallon
2001-04-30 18:12                     ` Alan Cox
2001-05-01 13:00                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-01 16:14                         ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-01 16:35                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02 10:54                             ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-02 11:04                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02 12:49                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-05-02 13:43                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02  0:28                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-02  0:34                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-02  0:43                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-02  1:14                               ` Roger Larsson
2001-05-02  1:30                                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-01 13:39                       ` Christoph Rohland
2001-05-01 23:25                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-28 18:04                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-28 21:23                     ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-29  1:43                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-29  9:17                       ` Kenneth Johansson
2001-04-28 18:21                   ` David Lang
2001-04-28 21:25                     ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2001-04-30 18:14               ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-04 22:04 Matt_Domsch
2001-03-05  8:58 ` Christoph Rohland
2001-03-05 14:30   ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-05 14:36   ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-05 14:52   ` Matti Aarnio
2001-03-05 13:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-03-05 16:53 Andries.Brouwer
2001-04-30 18:45 Torrey Hoffman
2001-04-30 19:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-30 19:07   ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30 19:14     ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-30 21:04       ` Andreas Ferber
2001-05-02 14:31     ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-02 22:17       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-04  8:16         ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-03 14:04 Ishikawa

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