From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:30:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:30:39 -0400 Received: from fjetret.sletner.com ([195.159.2.90]:14600 "HELO mail.sletner.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:30:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:29:55 +0200 From: Stian Sletner To: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Subject: Re: [PATCH] Dead keys Message-ID: <20010501212955.B17376@sletner.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:20:12PM +0200 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * At 2001-05-01T21:20+0200, Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl wrote: : | I think the main reason why it shouldn't be applied is that it changes | something. This keyboard stuff is unbelievably complicated. Many people | and distributions have wrestled with it and have got it working for them. | When you change stuff, you force people to start worrying about this again. | | [In other words, a global rewrite may be allowed, but non-compatible changes | in a few details only is really a bad idea.] Won't comment on this argument, it might outweigh my point (but that's not for me to say). | But there are other reasons why your patch is a bad idea. Everybody has | a double quote in his keymap, so using that to create umlauts is easy. | Only few people have a diaeresis in their keymap, so requiring a diaeresis | makes life more difficult for most people. It doesn't require anyone to use the ISO characters. The defkeymap.map still contains compose rules for the ASCII sequences. | (In other words, composing ASCII to make ISO 8859-1 is better than composing | ISO 8859-1 to make ISO 8859-1.) This is just a matter of adding compose rules. The issue here is that the dead keys themselves are producing the wrong characters. | Finally, you have loadkeys. If you change your private keymap | you achieve what you desire for yourself without disturbing others. No, this doesn't seem to be the case, unless I've missed something important. Because the dead_* are wrong, and I can't change them with a keymap, afaik? If I'm wrong, shoot me, then the patch is pointless. -- Stian Sletner