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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Max TenEyck Woodbury <mtew@cds.duke.edu>
Cc: Eric.Ayers@intec-telecom-systems.com,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	"Roets, Chris" <Chris.Roets@compaq.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux Cluster using shared scsi
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:03:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010502230357.A9507@bug.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200105011445.KAA01117@localhost.localdomain> <3AEEDFFC.409D8271@redhat.com> <15086.60620.745722.345084@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3AF025AE.511064F3@redhat.com> <3AF04648.73F5BFCE@cds.duke.edu> <3AF0483C.49C8CF90@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <3AF0483C.49C8CF90@redhat.com>; from Doug Ledford on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 01:47:40PM -0400

Hi!

> > > ...
> > >
> > > If told to hold a reservation, then resend your reservation request once every
> > > 2 seconds (this actually has very minimal CPU/BUS usage and isn't as big a
> > > deal as requesting a reservation every 2 seconds might sound).  The first time
> > > the reservation is refused, consider the reservation stolen by another machine
> > > and exit (or optionally, reboot).
> > 
> > Umm. Reboot? What do you think this is? Windoze?
> 
> It's the *only* way to guarantee that the drive is never touched by more than
> one machine at a time (notice, I've not been talking about a shared use drive,
> only one machine in the cluster "owns" the drive at a time, and it isn't for
> single transactions that it owns the drive, it owns the drive for as long as
> it is alive, this is a limitation of the filesystes currently available in
> mainstream kernels).  The reservation conflict and subsequent reboot also
> *only* happens when a reservation has been forcefully stolen from a
>machine. 

I do not believe reboot from kernel is right approach. Tell init with
special signal, maybe; but do not reboot forcefully. This is policy;
doing reboot might be right answer in 90% cases; that does not mean
you should do it always.

How is "reservation error" different from any other error? What if
drive generates reservation error by mistake?

I believe drive should be considered dead until reboot after
"reservation error". That way you do not damage data by default, and
provide user option with doing whatever is appropriate.
								Pavel
-- 
I'm pavel@ucw.cz. "In my country we have almost anarchy and I don't care."
Panos Katsaloulis describing me w.r.t. patents at discuss@linmodems.org

  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-03 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-01 13:07 Linux Cluster using shared scsi Roets, Chris
2001-05-01 14:45 ` James Bottomley
2001-05-01 16:10   ` Doug Ledford
2001-05-01 17:05     ` Eric Z. Ayers
2001-05-01 20:38       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-01 20:52         ` James Bottomley
2001-05-01 21:07         ` Eric Z. Ayers
2001-05-01 21:24           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-02 15:20       ` Doug Ledford
2001-05-02 16:37         ` Eddie Williams
2001-05-02 17:20         ` Mike Anderson
2001-05-02 17:50           ` Doug Ledford
2001-05-02 18:55             ` Mike Anderson
2001-05-02 20:31               ` Doug Ledford
2001-05-03 12:53                 ` James Bottomley
2001-05-03 13:52                   ` James Bottomley
2001-05-02 17:39         ` Max TenEyck Woodbury
2001-05-02 17:47           ` Doug Ledford
2001-05-02 21:03             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-05-03 19:57               ` Eric Z. Ayers
2001-05-03 22:32                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-02 21:47             ` Max TenEyck Woodbury
2001-05-02 23:16               ` Doug Ledford
2001-05-04 14:52             ` Eddie Williams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-27 15:11 James Bottomley
2001-04-27 13:18 Roets, Chris

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