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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>
Cc: CML2 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: Why recovering from broken configs is too hard
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 03:47:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010504034719.B10356@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010503034755.A27693@thyrsus.com> <200105032358.f43NwOB84159@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200105032358.f43NwOB84159@saturn.cs.uml.edu>; from acahalan@cs.uml.edu on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 07:58:24PM -0400

Albert D. Cahalan <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>:
> Procedure:
> 
> 1. throw out all junk symbols (could try spell checking first)
> 2. mark non-default settings as read-only
> 3. add missing symbols as needed to meet constraints
> 4. add any additional missing symbols
> 5. mutate the config until it works... user may ^C when bored

You can't be serious.  You invite the poor user to sit through an
indefinite, unpredictable, and *large* number of mutation passes
hoping the stupid search will trip over a solution?  That's a far worse
waste of their time than telling them to correct by hand in the
exceedingly rare cases that would be necessary, in my considered
opinion.

A more egregious case of using a bazooka to swat a fly I've seldom seen.
Can we restore some sense of *proportion* here?
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic
weapons.  A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple
weapon -- so long as there is no answer to it -- gives claws to the
weak.
        -- George Orwell, "You and the Atom Bomb", 1945

      parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-04  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-03  7:47 Why recovering from broken configs is too hard Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03  8:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-03  8:09   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03  8:29 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-03  8:42 ` [kbuild-devel] " Greg Banks
2001-05-03  8:52   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03  8:45 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-03  9:14   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-03  9:43     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03  9:56       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 10:00       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-03 15:55         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 18:36           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-03 14:54       ` David Mansfield
2001-05-03 15:58         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 18:13           ` John Stoffel
2001-05-03  9:32   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 10:15 ` [kbuild-devel] " Keith Owens
2001-05-03 16:59   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 17:48     ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 18:30       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 18:41         ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 19:03           ` Device driver from kernel2.2.x to kernel2.4 jalaja devi
2001-05-04  1:39             ` Andrew Morton
2001-05-03 22:58     ` [kbuild-devel] Why recovering from broken configs is too hard Keith Owens
2001-05-03 19:20 ` Michal Jaegermann
2001-05-03 23:58 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-03 22:55   ` David Lang
2001-05-04  7:47   ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]

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