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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: agrawal@ais.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: vsyscallRe: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:07:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010507190726.C45@(none)> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010503210904.B9715@bug.ucw.cz> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10105031541190.32369-100000@SLASH.REM.CMU.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10105031541190.32369-100000@SLASH.REM.CMU.EDU>; from agrawal@ais.org on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 03:50:07PM -0400

Hi!

> > That means that for fooling closed-source statically-linked binary,
> > you now need to patch kernel. That's regression; subterfugue.org could
> > do this with normal user rights in 2.4.0.
> 
> This is particularly pretty, but something that might work:
> 
> 1. a "deceiver" process creates a shared memory page, populates shared
>    page with appropriate magic (perhaps copying from its own magic page?)
> 2. have subterfuge unmap the magic page for the fooled process, and map in
>    the shared page in its place (assumes subterfuge can insert system
>    calls, instead of just modifying them)

subterfugue can insert calls just fine; just I'm not sure if vsyscall
implementation will let you unmap magic page.

> 3. deceiver periodically updates magic page

This is going to be the hard part.

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-11  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-28 15:52 X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd) Ingo Molnar
2001-04-28 19:53 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-28 22:56   ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29  5:13     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 11:14       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-29 11:27         ` David S. Miller
2001-04-29 13:32           ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-29 18:48             ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 18:55               ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 19:02                 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 19:47                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 19:54                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 20:11               ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-29 20:18                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 22:20                   ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-30  0:13                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-29 20:45                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-04-29 22:18                 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-30 16:46                 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-29 19:38           ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-29 23:53             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-29 16:21         ` dean gaudet
2001-04-29 20:19           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 22:29             ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 21:16           ` Jim Gettys
2001-04-29 21:40             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 21:47               ` Jim Gettys
2001-05-02 18:18             ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-02 19:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-02 20:55                 ` Fabio Riccardi
2001-04-30  7:02           ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30  7:29             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-30  7:51               ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30 14:56               ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-30  8:42       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03  7:13         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-03  7:44           ` Keith Owens
2001-05-03 10:37             ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-03 15:44             ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-05-07 19:04             ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03  9:37           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 19:03             ` vsyscalls [was Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)] Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 12:23         ` X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd) Helge Hafting
2001-05-03 19:09           ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 19:50             ` agrawal
2001-05-07 19:07               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-05-03 20:19             ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 20:41               ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-05-04  8:06                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-04 17:31                   ` dean gaudet
2001-05-04  8:43               ` bert hubert
2001-05-02 10:52     ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-02 10:53       ` Ingo Molnar

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