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From: R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl (Rogier Wolff)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Getting FS access events
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:55:14 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200105180755.JAA23039@cave.bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105142130480.23663-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> from Linus Torvalds at "May 14, 2001 09:43:18 pm"

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I'm really serious about doing "resume from disk". If you want a fast
> boot, I will bet you a dollar that you cannot do it faster than by loading
> a contiguous image of several megabytes contiguously into memory. There is
> NO overhead, you're pretty much guaranteed platter speeds, and there are
> no issues about trying to order accesses etc. There are also no issues
> about messing up any run-time data structures.

Linus, 

The "boot quickly" was an example. "Load netscape quickly" on some
systems is done by dd-ing the binary to /dev/null. 

Now, you're going to say again that this won't work because of
buffer-cache/page-cache incoherency.  That is NOT the point. The point
is that the fun about a cache is that it's just a cache. It speeds
things up transparently. 

If I need a new "prime-the-cache" program to mmap the files, and
trigger a page-in in the right order, then that's fine with me.

The fun about doing these tricks is that it works, and keeps on
working (functionally) even if it stops working (fast).

Yes, there is a way to boot even faster: preloading memory. Fine. But
this doesn't allow me to load netscape quicker.

			Roger. 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-18  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200105140117.f4E1HqN07362@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>
2001-05-14  1:32 ` Getting FS access events Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  1:45   ` Larry McVoy
2001-05-14  2:39     ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14  3:09       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-14  4:27         ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  4:37       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-23 11:37         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-14  2:24   ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14  4:46     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  5:15       ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 13:04         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-14 18:00           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-14 20:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 23:19           ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  0:42             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15  4:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  4:35               ` Larry McVoy
2001-05-15  4:57                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-15  5:12                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15  9:10                   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15  9:48                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2001-05-15  9:54                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:17                         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 20:58                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 21:08                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15  4:59                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:01                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-15  4:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  5:04                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15  6:20                 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  6:28                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  6:49                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  6:57                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 10:33                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15 10:44                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 14:42                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15  7:13                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  7:56                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-15  8:06                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  8:33                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 10:27                               ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-15 16:00                               ` Chris Mason
2001-05-15 19:26                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:03                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:07                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:15                                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:17                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:22                                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:26                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:31                                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 21:12                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 21:22                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 21:02                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 21:53                                             ` Jan Harkes
2001-05-19  5:26                             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-15 10:04                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-15 19:28                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:31                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-15 22:35                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16  1:17                             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-16  1:30                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16  8:34                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-16 16:27                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 16:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-15 18:02                       ` Craig Milo Rogers
2001-05-15 16:17                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:39                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 19:44                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23 11:29                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-20  4:30                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-20 19:47                       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18  7:55                 ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2001-05-23 11:36                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-15  6:13               ` Richard Gooch

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