From: Johannes Erdfelt <johannes@erdfelt.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:32:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010518133250.O32405@sventech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010515145830.Y5599@sventech.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105151208540.2339-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <20010515154325.Z5599@sventech.com> <20010517102029.A44@toy.ucw.cz>
In-Reply-To: <20010517102029.A44@toy.ucw.cz>; from Pavel Machek on Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:20:30AM +0000
On Thu, May 17, 2001, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > But no, I don't actually like sockets all that much myself. They are hard
> > > to use from scripts, and many more people are familiar with open/close and
> > > read/write.
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> > It would be nice to use open/close/read/write for control and bulk and
> > sockets for interrupt and isochronous.
>
> What makes interrupt so different? Last time I checked int pipes were very
> similar to bulk pipes... Do you care about "packet boundaries"? You can
> somehow emulate with read, too...
We probably could. It would have interesting semantics however. We would
have to have an ioctl or something else to specify period, and if it's
one shot, etc.
We could probably shoehorn isochronous semantics onto read/write as
well, but I don't want to begin to think how ugly that'll be.
The reason I don't favor the read/write idea for interrupt and
isochronous are the fact that they are so different. We could shoehorn
the semantics onto it, but we'd just be moving the problem from one
place to somewhere else.
A completely ioctl solution would work better in that case since it's
cleaner. The only problem would be the fact it's called ioctl.
JE
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Thread overview: 387+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-05-14 19:19 LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 19:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 19:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 20:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 20:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 20:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 20:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:43 ` Jan Niehusmann
2001-05-14 23:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 20:55 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-14 21:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 21:37 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-14 21:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-14 21:33 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-15 6:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 8:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 9:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 9:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 9:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 9:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 10:12 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 10:36 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 15:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 20:55 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 15:29 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:21 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 17:25 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:29 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 17:32 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:44 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:18 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-15 18:36 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 8:29 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-16 17:16 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:46 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 21:50 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 18:58 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-15 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 19:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 19:43 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-15 21:58 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-16 8:51 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-17 10:20 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-18 17:32 ` Johannes Erdfelt [this message]
2001-05-19 10:21 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-17 20:40 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-17 22:46 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-19 8:18 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 20:03 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 20:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:28 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-05-15 21:28 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 7:11 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-16 7:43 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 9:45 ` Malcolm Beattie
2001-05-15 21:43 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-05-15 21:49 ` James Simmons
2001-05-16 7:05 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 22:07 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 0:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-16 1:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-05-16 1:51 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 7:17 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-16 11:34 ` Erik Mouw
2001-05-17 17:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-05-17 19:30 ` Jeff Randall
2001-05-15 20:14 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:41 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-16 1:01 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-16 1:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 20:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-15 21:22 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 10:42 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-18 18:32 ` James Simmons
2001-05-19 10:23 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants] Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 19:43 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 20:31 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-19 23:57 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 7:18 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending DeviceNumber Registrants] Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 7:41 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 8:30 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending DeviceNumberRegistrants] Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 10:09 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 9:53 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Num Kai Henningsen
2001-05-20 13:40 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 14:27 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-20 14:30 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending DeviceNum Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 14:45 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 15:00 ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 15:18 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 15:40 ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-20 16:01 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 15:26 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-05-20 15:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 17:45 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-21 18:14 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 18:37 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-21 18:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 19:08 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 5:56 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Num Pavel Machek
2001-05-20 0:01 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants] Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 11:17 ` handling network using filesystem [was Re: no ioctls for serial ports?] Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 20:11 ` no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending DeviceNumber Registrants] Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-17 20:33 ` LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 20:57 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 20:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 21:59 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 22:51 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 21:22 ` Jan Harkes
2001-05-15 21:39 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-15 18:02 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-15 19:31 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 19:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:10 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 21:41 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 21:47 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 22:24 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 22:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:38 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 22:14 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 22:28 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 22:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 7:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-16 18:22 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 19:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 20:01 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 20:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 20:54 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 21:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 22:11 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-16 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 22:21 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-16 23:03 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 23:37 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 23:41 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 23:49 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-17 21:12 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-17 21:06 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-16 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-16 20:44 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-16 23:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 23:58 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-17 0:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-17 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-17 1:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-17 9:33 ` Guest section DW
2001-05-15 20:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 21:42 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 21:46 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 21:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:07 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:18 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 21:40 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-15 22:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 22:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:28 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 22:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 23:39 ` Chip Salzenberg
2001-05-16 20:37 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 22:49 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 23:22 ` Kenneth Johansson
2001-05-15 9:28 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 15:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 15:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-15 15:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 17:27 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 18:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-15 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 19:33 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 19:36 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-15 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 20:26 ` Dan Hollis
2001-05-15 22:14 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-15 21:29 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-05-15 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 22:03 ` Jeff Mahoney
2001-05-15 22:42 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-15 21:51 ` Mark Frazer
2001-05-15 22:35 ` Bob Glamm
2001-05-16 0:56 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 2:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-05-16 6:56 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 8:02 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-05-16 14:37 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 14:57 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-05-16 15:24 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 12:20 ` Bogdan Costescu
2001-05-16 7:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-16 23:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 23:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-17 0:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-17 7:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-17 16:26 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 6:43 ` Thomas Sailer
2001-05-17 16:58 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-17 17:18 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 17:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-17 17:41 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-17 22:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-05-16 23:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-17 1:26 ` Joel Becker
2001-05-16 16:04 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-16 21:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-17 21:23 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-18 2:18 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-19 8:42 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-19 17:36 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-20 9:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-05-20 15:54 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-20 14:16 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-20 15:57 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-19 17:45 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 7:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-15 18:19 ` James Simmons
2001-05-15 20:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 20:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 21:52 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-15 20:02 ` Dan Hollis
2001-05-15 11:44 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-15 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-16 1:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-16 12:58 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-16 3:25 ` Neil Brown
2001-05-15 15:51 ` John Fremlin
2001-05-14 21:09 ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-14 23:34 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 21:11 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-14 21:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 0:33 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-16 9:04 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-14 21:16 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 22:05 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 22:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 22:48 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 22:46 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 22:53 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 22:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 23:00 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 22:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:29 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-14 23:39 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15 4:20 ` God
2001-05-15 7:48 ` 2.4 " bert hubert
2001-05-15 8:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 9:09 ` bert hubert
2001-05-14 23:18 ` LANANA: " Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-14 23:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 18:57 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 5:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-05-15 5:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-14 22:55 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:11 ` Dan Hollis
2001-05-14 23:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:23 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 1:10 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-15 4:12 ` LANANA: Getting out of hand? God
2001-05-15 4:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 5:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 8:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-15 8:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15 21:16 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-14 23:01 ` Interrupted sound with 2.4.4-ac6 Hermann Himmelbauer
2001-05-14 21:18 ` LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants Alan Cox
2001-05-14 23:32 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 20:09 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 20:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-15 17:37 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-17 11:32 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-16 15:58 ` Kurt Garloff
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2001-05-16 17:19 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2001-05-16 20:05 ` James Simmons
2001-05-16 20:13 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2001-05-16 20:16 ` James Simmons
2001-05-16 20:21 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
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2001-05-15 21:27 Timothy A. Seufert
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2001-05-16 7:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-16 15:50 ` Mo McKinlay
2001-05-15 22:21 David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-15 23:35 ` David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:55 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-17 18:39 ` Mark H. Wood
2001-05-15 22:49 David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:16 David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:35 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-16 0:13 ` David Brownell
2001-05-15 23:56 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-16 0:41 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-16 16:55 ` James Simmons
2001-05-17 6:12 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-17 12:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-05-17 16:34 ` Tim Jansen
2001-05-17 17:03 ` David Brownell
2001-05-17 16:17 ` David Brownell
2001-05-17 16:56 ` James Simmons
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2001-05-16 0:01 Bingner Sam J. Contractor RSIS
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2001-05-16 12:09 ` Thomas Kotzian
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2001-05-17 6:35 ` Albert D. Cahalan
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2001-05-16 12:12 ` Oystein Viggen
2001-05-16 12:45 ` Josh Fryman
2001-05-16 13:28 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-16 16:30 ` Miles Lane
2001-05-16 16:18 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-18 14:17 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-19 5:29 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-19 16:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-19 18:21 ` Hans Reiser
2001-05-19 20:20 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-21 13:34 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-16 18:37 ` Hacksaw
2001-05-16 15:14 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-16 13:11 mike_phillips
2001-05-18 18:23 ` Mark H. Wood
2001-05-16 13:13 Jesse Pollard
2001-05-16 15:06 Khachaturov, Vassilii
2001-05-17 0:09 Dunlap, Randy
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2001-05-17 9:42 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-17 8:58 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-17 20:00 Brian Wheeler
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2002-10-03 17:45 ` Jan Harkes
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2002-10-04 16:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-10-04 16:17 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 17:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-10-04 17:29 ` David Howells
2002-10-07 14:14 ` David Howells
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2002-10-07 15:36 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 16:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-04 15:34 ` David Howells
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2002-10-04 16:56 ` David Howells
2002-10-04 17:36 ` Jan Harkes
2002-10-07 9:14 ` David Howells
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