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From: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
To: Mike Galbraith <mikeg@wen-online.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:19:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010518201924.M754@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105181403280.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105181936240.583-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105181936240.583-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>; from mikeg@wen-online.de on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:45:15PM +0200

On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:45:15PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> Yes, ~exactly!  I chose 30 tasks because they almost do (tool/userland
> dependant.. must recalibrate often) fit.  The bitch is to get the vm
> to automagically detect the rss/cache munch tradeoff point without all
> the manual help.

What about a sysctl for that? Choose decent steps and let 0
(which is an insane value) mean "let's kernel decide" and make
this default.

In the past we could do this by adjusting some watermarks in
/proc/sys/vm but now, we can't do anything but trust the genius
kernel developers.

I doubt that we can test all kinds of workload and even imagine
what pervert stuff some people do with their machines.

Tuning _is_ manual work. Always has been and always will be.

This countinously "I know it better then you" is what I hated
about Windows and now this comes more and more into Linux :-(

Rik: Would you take patches for such a tradeoff sysctl?

Regards

Ingo Oeser
-- 
To the systems programmer,
users and applications serve only to provide a test load.

  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-18 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-17 16:45 Linux 2.4.4-ac10 Alan Cox
2001-05-17 17:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-05-17 17:36   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-17 17:16 ` Chris Evans
2001-05-17 17:37   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-17 17:47   ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-17 21:03     ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18  3:55       ` Sasi Peter
2001-05-18  4:03         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18  6:06       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 17:08         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 17:45           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 18:19             ` Ingo Oeser [this message]
2001-05-18 18:23               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 18:58                 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-18 20:12                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 20:24                   ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 20:09                 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 22:44                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 22:58                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-19  2:12                       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-19  2:32                         ` Mike Castle
2001-05-19  6:45                         ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-19  4:40                       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-19 17:13                       ` [RFC][PATCH] " Mike Galbraith
2001-05-19 21:41                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-20  3:29                           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20  6:42                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-20  8:08                               ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20  8:49                                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-20  9:47                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 10:04                                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-21 13:36                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-20 21:54                                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-21 20:32                                     ` David Weinehall
2001-05-23 15:34                                       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-25  8:39                                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-23 17:24                                       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-23 17:51                                       ` Scott Anderson
2001-05-25  8:10                                         ` David Weinehall
2001-05-25 18:39                                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-04 19:22                                     ` RPM Installation - Compilation errors jalaja devi
2001-05-24  8:48                                   ` [RFC][PATCH] Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10 Mike Galbraith
2001-05-24  9:10                                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-24 10:32                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-24 11:03                                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-24 14:23                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 15:32                             ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-20 17:38                               ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 13:44                         ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-05-20 17:58                           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 19:32                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-20 21:37                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-21  3:44                               ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 21:03                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-21  3:54                           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-17 17:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-17 18:33 ` Udo A. Steinberg
2001-05-17 18:40   ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-17 18:51     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-17 19:21   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-17 18:46 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-17 19:00   ` J . A . Magallon
2001-05-17 19:05     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-17 19:26     ` Alan Cox
2001-05-17 20:52 ` Linux 2.4.4-ac10: Oops FAVRE Gregoire
2001-05-17 21:41   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 11:28     ` FAVRE Gregoire
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-05-18  8:12 Linux 2.4.4-ac10 David Balazic
2001-05-18  8:51 ` André Dahlqvist

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