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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: alpha iommu fixes
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:50:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010521125032.K30738@athlon.random> (raw)
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In-Reply-To: <15112.59880.127047.315855@pizda.ninka.net>; from davem@redhat.com on Mon, May 21, 2001 at 03:11:52AM -0700

On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 03:11:52AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> I think such designs which gobble up a gig or so of DMA mappings on

they maps something like 200mbyte I think. I also seen other cards doing
the same kind of stuff again for the distributed computing.

> to be using dual address cycles, ie. 64-bit PCI addressing.  It is
> the same response you would give to someone trying to obtain 3 or more
> gigabytes of user address space in a process on x86, right?  You might

I never seen those running on 64bit boxes even if they are supposed to
run there too.

Here it's a little different, 32bit virtual address space limitation
isn't always a showstopper for those kind of CPU intensive apps (they
don't need huge caches).

> respond to that person "What you really need is x86-64." for example
> :-)

for the 32bit virtual address space issues of course yes ;)

> To me, from this perspective, the Quadrics sounds instead like a very
> broken piece of hardware.  And in any event, is there even a Quadrics

they're not the only ones doing that, I seen others doing that kind of
stuff, it's just a matter of information memory fast across a cluster,
if you delegate that work to a separate engine (btw they runs a
sparc32bit cpu, also guess why they aren't pci64) you can spend much
more cpu cycles of the main CPU on the userspace computations.

> driver for sparc64? :-)  (I'm a free software old-fart, so please
> excuse my immediate association between "high end" and "proprietary"
> :-)

:)

Andrea

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-21 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-18 17:46 alpha iommu fixes Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-19  2:34 ` Tom Vier
2001-05-19 10:48   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-19 20:58     ` Tom Vier
2001-05-19 13:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-19 19:11   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-20  2:40     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-20 12:12       ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-20 13:40         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-20 14:23         ` Gérard Roudier
     [not found]       ` <3B07AF49.5A85205F@uow.edu.au>
2001-05-20 13:49         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-20 14:05           ` Andrew Morton
2001-05-20 14:33             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21  1:01               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  1:47                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21  7:05                   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  8:59                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21  9:02                       ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  9:23                         ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-21  9:30                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  9:42                             ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-21 10:00                               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21 10:27                                 ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-21 10:34                                   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21 10:42                                     ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-21 10:55                                       ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21 11:08                                         ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-21 11:36                                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21 11:41                                             ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-21 22:22                                   ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-21 10:02                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21 10:17                                 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21  9:56                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21 10:11                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21 10:19                             ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21 11:00                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21 11:04                                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21 11:27                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21 12:16                                     ` Peter Rival
2001-05-21 13:55                               ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-21 14:17                                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-21 15:47                                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-22 11:12                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-22 17:51                                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-21 10:50                             ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-05-21 10:59                               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21 11:19                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21 11:51                                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-21 17:53                                     ` Richard Henderson
2001-05-22  0:56                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-22 14:29                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-22 14:44                                           ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-22 15:00                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-22 20:28                                               ` Richard Henderson
2001-05-22 20:40                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-22 20:52                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-22 20:57                                                   ` Richard Henderson
2001-05-22 21:09                                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-22 20:48                                                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-22 21:02                                                   ` Richard Henderson
2001-05-22 21:10                                                     ` Alan Cox
2001-05-22 21:17                                                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-22 21:24                                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-22 21:34                                                         ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-05-22 21:08                                                 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-22 15:18                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-22 15:55                                               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-22 16:06                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-22 13:22                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21  9:50                       ` Gerd Knorr
2001-05-21  1:00             ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  7:47               ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21  7:53                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  8:03                   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21  8:11                     ` David S. Miller
2001-05-20 16:18           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-20 16:21             ` Andrew Morton
2001-05-20 16:44               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-20 16:54                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-05-20 17:12                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21  1:07                     ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  1:37                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21  6:53                         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  7:59                           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21  8:09                             ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  8:09                               ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21  8:06                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-23  0:05                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-22 13:11                       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-22 23:02                         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-20 17:16             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-20 17:37               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-21  1:03             ` David S. Miller
2001-05-21  1:58               ` Richard Henderson
2001-05-20  1:11 ` Richard Henderson
2001-05-20 12:05   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-05-21  0:37     ` Richard Henderson

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