From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: DVD blockdevice buffers
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:34:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010523183419.I27177@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010518210226.A7147@moserv.hasi> <20010518212531.A6763@suse.de> <9e7ain$lis$1@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <9e7ain$lis$1@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sat, May 19, 2001 at 07:36:07PM -0700
Hi,
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 07:36:07PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Right now we don't try to aggressively drop streaming pages, but it's
> possible. Using raw devices is a silly work-around that should not be
> needed, and this load shows a real problem in current Linux (one soon to
> be fixed, I think - Andrea already has some experimental patches for the
> page-cache thing).
Right. I'd like to see buffered IO able to work well --- apart from
the VM issues, it's the easiest way to allow the application to take
advantage of readahead. However, there's one sticking point we
encountered, which is applications which write to block devices in
units smaller than a page. Small block writes get magically
transformed into read/modify/write cycles if you shift the block
devices into the page cache.
Of course, we could just say "then don't do that" and be done with it
--- after all, we already have this behaviour when writing to regular
files.
--Stephen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-05-23 18:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-05-18 19:02 DVD blockdevice buffers Eduard Hasenleithner
2001-05-18 19:25 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-18 19:59 ` Eduard Hasenleithner
2001-05-20 2:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23 17:34 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2001-05-23 18:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23 19:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-23 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23 20:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-23 22:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-25 20:12 ` blkdev-pagecache-2 [was Re: DVD blockdevice buffers] Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-25 20:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-23 22:09 ` DVD blockdevice buffers Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-23 22:13 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-23 22:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-24 11:36 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-25 15:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-05-25 15:45 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-25 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-25 17:40 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-25 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-25 18:24 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-25 19:02 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-27 6:38 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-25 21:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-05-25 21:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-25 22:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-05-19 18:16 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-05-19 22:56 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-20 1:55 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-05-21 15:44 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-05-21 15:47 ` Jens Axboe
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