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From: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
To: green@linuxhacker.ru, laughing@shared-source.org (Alan Cox),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac7
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:51:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200106032051.f53Kpgg10681@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.991555081.25242.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <mailman.991555081.25242.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>

> AC> 2.4.5-ac7
> AC> o       Make USB require PCI                            (me)

> How about people from StrongArm sa11x0 port, who have USB host controller
> (in sa1111 companion chip) but do not have PCI?
> Probably there are more such embedded architectures with USB controllers,
> but not PCI bus.

There is nothing that would bind USB to PCI architecturally.
OHCI and UHCI are PCI based, but that's just a matter of
implementation. I think that Alan was unwise at this point.

I know that some small Motorola parts (relatives of 860, perhaps)
do have USB controllers, but I have no idea if PCI is involved.

> How about ISA USB host controllers?

Those, unfortunately, do not exist. I was shopping for one
in vain for a long time. One formiddable difficulty is that
USB bandwidth is larger than ISA, so the only feasible way
to make a HC is to have all TD's in its onboard memory,
as in VGA.

In other follow-up Alan argued in favor of CONFIG_PCI for
a PCI-less machine. It may be a reasonable approach, for
instance JavaStation-1 has no PCI but requires CONFIG_PCI.
It adds a little of useless bloat, that I considered a
necessary evil in the abovementioned case.

-- Pete

       reply	other threads:[~2001-06-03 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.991555081.25242.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-06-03 20:51 ` Pete Zaitcev [this message]
2001-06-04 12:27   ` Linux 2.4.5-ac7 Pavel Machek
2001-06-05 15:03     ` Dominik Kubla
2001-06-03 15:49 Wayne.Brown
2001-06-04 20:10 ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-03 12:04 Mikael Pettersson
2001-06-02 23:23 Alan Cox
2001-06-03  7:46 ` Oleg Drokin
2001-06-03 11:19   ` Alan Cox
2001-06-03 12:33     ` Russell King
2001-06-03 14:02       ` Oleg Drokin
2001-06-03 14:45       ` Alan Cox
2001-06-03 14:51         ` Oleg Drokin
2001-06-03 14:54           ` Alan Cox
2001-06-04  1:49         ` lists
2001-06-03 13:59     ` Oleg Drokin
2001-06-04 17:56       ` Tom Rini
2001-06-04 17:59         ` Alan Cox
2001-06-04 18:49           ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-06-03 18:16     ` Philip Blundell
2001-06-03 20:50     ` Tom Rini
2001-06-04 12:37     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-06-04 12:59     ` johan.adolfsson
2001-06-03 14:56   ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-06-03 15:03     ` Alan Cox

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