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From: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
To: landley@webofficenow.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:13:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200106210313.f5L3DZ124717@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.993083762.1429.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010620042544.E24183@vitelus.com> <01062007252301.00776@localhost.localdomain> <20010621000725.A24672@werewolf.able.es> <mailman.993083762.1429.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>

> Then again JavaOS was an abortion on top of Slowaris. [...]

This is a false statemenet, Rob. It was an abortion, all right,
but not related to Solaris in any way at all.

JavaOS existed in two flavours minimum, which had very little
in common. The historically first of them (Luna), was a home-made
executive with pretty rudimentary abilities. I must admit I am
not intimately familiar with its genesis. A part of it was related
to the JavaOS running on Sun 701 chip, but what came first,
I cannot tell. Second flavour of JavaOS was made on top of
Chorus, and, _I think_, used large parts of Luna in the the
JVM department, but it had decent kernel, with such novations
as a device driver interface :)

> make a DPMI DOS port with an SVGA AWT and say "hey, we're done, and it boots 
> off a single floppy", I'll never know.

Such a thing existed. I do not remember its proper name,
but I remember that it booted from hard disk. Floppy
was too small for it.

> Porting half of Solaris to Power PC for JavaOS has got to be one of the most 
> peverse things I've seen in my professional career.

I never heard of PPC port of either of JavaOSes, although
Chorus runs on PPC. Perhaps this is what you mean.

Solaris for PPC existed, but never was widespread.
It did not have JVM bundled.

> I'm upset that Red Hat 7.1 won't install on that old laptop because it only 
> has 24 megs of ram and RedHat won't install in that. [...]

You blew adding a swap partition, I suspect...

-- Pete

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-21  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-19 14:53 accounting for threads Dan Kegel
2001-06-19 14:57 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-19 15:44 ` ognen
2001-06-19 15:58   ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Dan Kegel
2001-06-19 16:02     ` David S. Miller
2001-06-19 16:12       ` Padraig Brady
2001-06-19 19:10       ` bert hubert
2001-06-19 19:18         ` Alan Cox
2001-06-19 19:32           ` bert hubert
2001-06-19 19:43           ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 15:22           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-20 15:33             ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 15:59               ` Threads are processes that share more bert hubert
2001-06-20 16:15                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 18:48                 ` Martin Devera
2001-06-20 19:19                   ` Unknown PCI Net Device Greg Ingram
2001-06-20 22:53                     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-06-20 22:56                       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-20 23:00                       ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20 22:08                 ` Threads are processes that share more Stephen Satchell
2001-06-20 22:14                   ` ognen
2001-06-20 23:10                   ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 23:47                     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-25  2:23                       ` David S. Miller
2001-06-20 16:39               ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) george anzinger
2001-06-20 18:35                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-21  4:11                   ` Rusty Russell
2001-06-21 23:37                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-21 23:55                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-22 14:53                         ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-20 16:40               ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-20 20:09               ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 19:05           ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 14:35         ` Mike Porter
2001-06-20 11:56           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-19 16:02     ` Ben Pfaff
2001-06-19 16:09     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 16:26       ` Matthew Kirkwood
2001-06-19 16:52         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 18:18           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-19 23:31           ` Timur Tabi
2001-06-20 11:52             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 21:20               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-06-20 18:12                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 23:28                   ` Dan Podeanu
2001-06-21  0:42                   ` D. Stimits
2001-06-20 20:18                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  1:57                       ` D. Stimits
2001-06-21 14:46                         ` Idea: Patches-from-linus mailing list? (Was Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)) Rob Landley
2001-06-21 14:02                   ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Jesse Pollard
2001-06-21 14:18                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-22 14:46               ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-06-22 13:29                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-24 21:41                   ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 16:55                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-24 22:30                       ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 18:21                         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25 13:48                           ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 22:39                         ` Steven Walter
2001-06-24 23:50                         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-24 20:24                           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25  0:05                           ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-25  0:32                             ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-25  0:59                               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-25  2:18                         ` Galen Hancock
2001-06-20 14:59             ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-06-20 19:14           ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 21:01           ` RE:Why use threads ( was: Alan Cox quote?) David Schwartz
2001-06-20 21:26             ` Why " Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 22:18               ` David Schwartz
2001-06-20 22:41                 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20 22:47                   ` [OT] " Jeff Garzik
2001-06-21  0:21                   ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21  0:56                     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-21  1:32                       ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21  2:22                         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-21  2:43                           ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21 16:10                             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-21 19:55                               ` Marco Colombo
2001-06-20 22:43                 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-21  1:43                   ` David Schwartz
2001-06-19 17:10       ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Matti Aarnio
2001-06-19 17:20       ` Mike Castle
2001-06-19 17:37         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 17:45           ` Mike Castle
2001-06-19 18:08             ` Georg Nikodym
2001-06-19 19:38               ` Georg Nikodym
2001-06-19 19:56                 ` Michael Meissner
2001-06-19 17:53           ` Steve Underwood
2001-06-19 19:01             ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20  2:57               ` Michael Rothwell
2001-06-20  3:04                 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20  3:38                   ` John R Lenton
2001-06-20 10:21                   ` john slee
2001-06-20 18:08                     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 16:21                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20  9:14                 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-22  2:36                   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-06-19 17:36       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-19 17:41         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 20:57         ` David S. Miller
2001-06-19 21:11           ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-19 21:15             ` David S. Miller
2001-06-19 23:56               ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-20  0:19                 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-20  0:28                   ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20  1:30                     ` Ben Greear
2001-06-20  2:14                       ` Mike Castle
2001-06-20  9:00                     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 11:25                       ` [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-20 11:25                         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 17:36                           ` Martin Dalecki
2001-06-20 19:27                             ` Mike Harrold
2001-06-20 17:46                               ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 19:53                               ` Martin Dalecki
2001-06-20 17:53                                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  7:45                                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.993067219.29993.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-06-20 20:16                                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2001-06-20 22:05                                   ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                           ` <20010621000725.A24672@werewolf.able.es>
2001-06-20 19:15                             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  9:40                               ` Jonathan Morton
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.993083762.1429.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-06-21  3:13                               ` Pete Zaitcev [this message]
2001-06-21 13:59                                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21 16:48                           ` Adam Sampson
2001-06-20 15:12                         ` Ben Greear
2001-06-20 15:44                           ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-20 16:32                             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20 16:54                               ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-20 17:03                               ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-20 15:10                                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 20:23                                   ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-21  8:12                                     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 20:40                                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-06-20 20:48                                     ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-20 21:00                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 21:06                                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-06-20 18:14                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 16:53                           ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 12:36                             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 21:14                           ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-20 18:09                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 19:05                         ` William T Wilson
2001-06-20  0:04           ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Chris Ricker
2001-06-20  0:59             ` Robert Love
2001-06-19 18:01       ` Alan Cox quote? Kai Henningsen
2001-06-19 18:49         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 21:12           ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-19 22:50             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-19 20:12         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-20 21:13 [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java Holzrichter, Bruce
2001-06-20 21:17 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-06-21  4:10 Dan Kegel

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