From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:34:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:34:47 -0400 Received: from [209.250.53.201] ([209.250.53.201]:27400 "EHLO hapablap.dyn.dhs.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:34:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:39:28 -0500 From: Steven Walter To: "J . A . Magallon" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Message-ID: <20010624173928.A14013@hapablap.dyn.dhs.org> In-Reply-To: <0106220929490F.00692@localhost.localdomain> <20010624234101.A1619@werewolf.able.es> <01062412555901.03436@localhost.localdomain> <20010625003002.A1767@werewolf.able.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010625003002.A1767@werewolf.able.es>; from jamagallon@able.es on Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 12:30:02AM +0200 X-Uptime: 5:37pm up 1 day, 16:19, 1 user, load average: 1.38, 1.46, 1.57 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 12:30:02AM +0200, J . A . Magallon wrote: > Take a programmer comming from other system to linux. If he wants multi- > threading and protable code, he will choose pthreads. And you say to him: > do it with 'clone', it is better. Answer: non protable. Again: do it > with fork(), it is fast in linux. Answer: better for linux, but it is a > real pain in other systems. > > And worst, you are allowing people to program based on a tool that will give > VERY diferent performance when ported to other systems. They use fork(). > They port their app to solaris. The performance sucks. It is not Solaris > fault. It is linux fast fork() that makes people not looking for the > correct standard tool for what they want todo. This sounds to my like "Linux is making other OSes look bad. Cut it out." -- -Steven In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell