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From: Pekka Pietikainen <pp@evil.netppl.fi>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:28:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010628212805.A19547@netppl.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0106280956030.15199-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <6082.993748704@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <6082.993748704@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 06:18:24PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> 
> torvalds@transmeta.com said:
> > Things like version strings etc sound useful, but the fact is that the
> > only _real_ problem it has ever solved for anybody is when somebody
> > thinks they install a new kernel, and forgets to run "lilo" or
> > something.
> 
> I can give counter-examples of times when it's been extremely useful to 
> know exactly what version the user is running, and the info messages
> included in their first bug report have told me exactly what I needed to 
> know.
> 
> Only for code which is always distributed as part of the kernel, and where 
> there are never any more up to date versions in the maintainer's tree, even 
> temporarily.
Indeed, and even if you're talking about kernel x.y.z the
user might in fact be running a vendor-patched kernel with a newer
version of the driver (and the author would still have to find out
what version of the driver was included).

For other things the version string is pretty useless as it isn't ever
updated (e.g. networking), and there the kernel version is enough
information.

What I'd propose is a recommendation that modules in 
addition to the "useful" information a module should print
a maximum of one line (80 chars), and the author gets to
choose what they want in there, version information, driver homepage,
copyright, sponsor, whatever.

I just hope we never get to the point of having a "Memory leak removal
sponsored by Tampax" boot message ;)

-- 
Pekka Pietikainen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-28 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-26 12:52 Cosmetic JFFS patch David Woodhouse
2001-06-27 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-27 22:09   ` Alan Cox
2001-06-27 22:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28  7:43       ` Patrick Dreker
2001-06-28  8:07         ` Greg KH
2001-06-28 17:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 17:14           ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 17:51             ` Craig Milo Rogers
2001-06-28 18:06               ` Alan Cox
2001-06-29  2:30             ` Keith Owens
2001-06-28 17:18           ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-28 17:22             ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 18:28             ` Pekka Pietikainen [this message]
2001-06-30 11:42             ` Ben Ford
2001-06-28 17:50           ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-06-28 19:00           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-28 19:25             ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-28 19:31               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-30 10:52                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-28 19:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 19:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-29  3:22             ` Ian Stirling
2001-06-29 11:27               ` Juan Quintela
2001-06-29 12:00                 ` Craig McLean
2001-06-29 19:47                   ` Hacksaw
2001-06-30 22:17           ` Adam Sampson
2001-06-28  5:54   ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-28  8:39     ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-06-28  9:19       ` Bjorn Wesen
2001-06-28 10:57         ` David Weinehall
2001-06-28 12:01       ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 17:47       ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-06-28 22:04         ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-29  2:16           ` Hacksaw
2001-06-28 14:37     ` chuckw
2001-06-28 16:14       ` Vipin Malik
2001-06-28 16:24         ` chuckw
2001-06-28 16:25           ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-28 21:30             ` John R Lenton
2001-06-28 21:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-28 21:43                 ` Olaf Hering
2001-06-28 21:46                   ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-29 19:36             ` Riley Williams
2001-06-28 16:26           ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 17:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 17:18               ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 17:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 17:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-28 17:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 18:13                       ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-28 22:01                       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-28 17:29                 ` chuckw
2001-06-28 17:30                   ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-28 17:41                     ` chuckw
2001-06-28 17:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 18:16                         ` Tommy Reynolds
2001-06-28 18:36                           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-06-28 18:53                             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-28 19:09                             ` Dan Podeanu
2001-06-28 20:18                               ` Craig Milo Rogers
2001-07-01  6:32                                 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01  7:22                                   ` Ian Stirling
2001-06-29 13:43                             ` Holger Lubitz
2001-06-29 14:36                               ` Jordan Crouse
2001-06-29 15:09                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-29 17:43                                 ` Chris Boot
2001-06-29 17:26                               ` David Lang
2001-06-30 11:07                                 ` szonyi calin
2001-06-29 17:19                             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-28 18:17                         ` Christoph Zens
2001-06-30  2:52                           ` Daniel Stone
2001-06-28 17:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-29  6:03                     ` Paul Mackerras
2001-06-29  6:29                       ` Cort Dougan
2001-06-29  7:44                         ` Paul Mackerras
2001-06-29  8:10                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-01 19:14             ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-06-28 22:20       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-29 14:33         ` Chuck Wolber
2001-07-01  9:15           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-28  7:18   ` PATCH 2.4.6.5: fix mtd config David Woodhouse
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-29  0:29 Cosmetic JFFS patch A. Melon
2001-06-29 11:01 Martin Knoblauch
2001-07-01  6:39 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01  7:21   ` Gregory Finch
     [not found] <993825330.30635@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-06-29 20:13 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-06-30 20:39   ` Raja R Harinath
2001-07-02  8:38   ` Craig McLean
2001-06-30 18:26 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-01  9:27 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-05 12:41 Heusden, Folkert van

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