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From: Daniel Stone <daniel@sfarc.net>
To: Christoph Zens <czens@coactive.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	chuckw@altaserv.net, Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Vipin Malik <vipin.malik@daniel.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	jffs-dev@axis.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:52:11 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010630125211.C14891@sfarc.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106281111490.19351-100000@rumba.coactive.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106281111490.19351-100000@rumba.coactive.com>

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 11:17:15AM -0700, Christoph Zens wrote:
> 
> > Also, in printk's, you waste run-time memory, and you bloat up the need
> > for the log size. Both of which are _technical_ reasons not to do it.
> > 
> > Small is beuatiful.
> 
> I totally agree. If you want to use Linux for a small and low cost
> embedded system, you can't afford loads of RAM and FLASH space.
> Small is the _key_ for those systems.

*For* *those* *systems*.

Until 99% of the Linux machines are Agendas, or whatever, and 1% PC's, as
opposed to the other way around, we should default to displaying basic[1]
info about the driver, unless told to with a "verbose" option or somesuch,
which would make it spew verbose stuff[2]. And then a "debug" option which
would make it spew lots and lots of stuff[3]. All of this specifiable on the
commandline. (Can you currently change the default loglevel on the kernel
commandline?).

I honestly feel that this is the best idea. Just because we do this by
default doesn't mean that the people who make embedded systems can't modify
the kernel, or hell, even just the bootflags, to do what they want.

:) d

[1]: <device name>: <hardware type> <irq, etc>, e.g.:
     eth0: Intel EtherExpress PRO/100, IRQ10, etc
[2]: <driver name>: <version> <maintainer>
     <device name>: <hardware type> <irq, etc>, e.g.:
     eepro100.c: v0.1, Daniel Stone <daniel@sfarc.net>
     eth0: Intel EtherExpress PRO/100, IRQ10, etc
[3]: <driver name>: <version> <maintainer>
     <other random init crap>
     <device name>: <hardware type> <irq, etc>
     <other random crap>, e.g.:
     eepro100.c: v0.1, Daniel Stone <daniel@sfarc.net>
     Loaded with no options, scanning all PCI bus by default.
     eth0: Intel EtherExpress PRO/100, IRQ10, etc
     Intel i82559 OEM card, with <x> bug.
     Enabling lock-up workaround bug, but you should get a Tulip.

-- 
Daniel Stone						     <daniel@sfarc.net>
<Nuke> "can NE1 help me aim nuclear weaponz????? /MSG ME!!"

  reply	other threads:[~2001-06-30  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-26 12:52 Cosmetic JFFS patch David Woodhouse
2001-06-27 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-27 22:09   ` Alan Cox
2001-06-27 22:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28  7:43       ` Patrick Dreker
2001-06-28  8:07         ` Greg KH
2001-06-28 17:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 17:14           ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 17:51             ` Craig Milo Rogers
2001-06-28 18:06               ` Alan Cox
2001-06-29  2:30             ` Keith Owens
2001-06-28 17:18           ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-28 17:22             ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 18:28             ` Pekka Pietikainen
2001-06-30 11:42             ` Ben Ford
2001-06-28 17:50           ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-06-28 19:00           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-28 19:25             ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-28 19:31               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-30 10:52                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-28 19:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 19:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-29  3:22             ` Ian Stirling
2001-06-29 11:27               ` Juan Quintela
2001-06-29 12:00                 ` Craig McLean
2001-06-29 19:47                   ` Hacksaw
2001-06-30 22:17           ` Adam Sampson
2001-06-28  5:54   ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-28  8:39     ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-06-28  9:19       ` Bjorn Wesen
2001-06-28 10:57         ` David Weinehall
2001-06-28 12:01       ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 17:47       ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-06-28 22:04         ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-29  2:16           ` Hacksaw
2001-06-28 14:37     ` chuckw
2001-06-28 16:14       ` Vipin Malik
2001-06-28 16:24         ` chuckw
2001-06-28 16:25           ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-28 21:30             ` John R Lenton
2001-06-28 21:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-28 21:43                 ` Olaf Hering
2001-06-28 21:46                   ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-29 19:36             ` Riley Williams
2001-06-28 16:26           ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 17:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 17:18               ` Alan Cox
2001-06-28 17:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 17:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-28 17:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 18:13                       ` David Woodhouse
2001-06-28 22:01                       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-28 17:29                 ` chuckw
2001-06-28 17:30                   ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-28 17:41                     ` chuckw
2001-06-28 17:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-28 18:16                         ` Tommy Reynolds
2001-06-28 18:36                           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-06-28 18:53                             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-28 19:09                             ` Dan Podeanu
2001-06-28 20:18                               ` Craig Milo Rogers
2001-07-01  6:32                                 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01  7:22                                   ` Ian Stirling
2001-06-29 13:43                             ` Holger Lubitz
2001-06-29 14:36                               ` Jordan Crouse
2001-06-29 15:09                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-29 17:43                                 ` Chris Boot
2001-06-29 17:26                               ` David Lang
2001-06-30 11:07                                 ` szonyi calin
2001-06-29 17:19                             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-28 18:17                         ` Christoph Zens
2001-06-30  2:52                           ` Daniel Stone [this message]
2001-06-28 17:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-29  6:03                     ` Paul Mackerras
2001-06-29  6:29                       ` Cort Dougan
2001-06-29  7:44                         ` Paul Mackerras
2001-06-29  8:10                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-01 19:14             ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-06-28 22:20       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-29 14:33         ` Chuck Wolber
2001-07-01  9:15           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-28  7:18   ` PATCH 2.4.6.5: fix mtd config David Woodhouse
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-29  0:29 Cosmetic JFFS patch A. Melon
2001-06-29 11:01 Martin Knoblauch
2001-07-01  6:39 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01  7:21   ` Gregory Finch
     [not found] <993825330.30635@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-06-29 20:13 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-06-30 20:39   ` Raja R Harinath
2001-07-02  8:38   ` Craig McLean
2001-06-30 18:26 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-01  9:27 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-05 12:41 Heusden, Folkert van

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