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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: "C. Slater" <cslater@wcnet.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:17:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010713011758.A122@bug.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D52B19A7284D32459CF20D579C4B0C0211C92A@mail0.myrio.com> <001501c10a71$68c66820$0200000a@laptop>
In-Reply-To: <001501c10a71$68c66820$0200000a@laptop>; from C. Slater on Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 09:24:32PM -0400

Hi!

> Would anyone else like to point out some other task somewhat related 
> and have me do it? :-)

Ummm, I need someone to cook me lunch tommorow ;-).

> > > Before you even try switching kernels, first implement a process
> > > checkpoint/restart. The process must be resumed after a boot
> > > using the same
> > > kernel, with all I/O resumed. Now get it accepted into the kernel.
> > 
> > Hear, hear!  That would be a useful feature, maybe not network servers, 
> > but for pure number crunching apps it would save people having to write 
> > all the state saving and recovery that is needed now for long term 
> > computations.
> 
> Get a computer with hibernation support. That's just about what it
> is.

No. Hibernation can be done (see sw_susp patches). This is per-process
-> different. And you could implement that "live upgrade" similar
way. Checkpoint all. Reboot with new kernel. Restart all. That's close
enough to live upgrade.

(Ouch, what are you going to do with programs that behave differently
on different kernel releases? What if you have X using some kernel
driver that goes away in new release?)

-- 
I'm pavel@ucw.cz. "In my country we have almost anarchy and I don't care."
Panos Katsaloulis describing me w.r.t. patents at discuss@linmodems.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-13 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-12  1:03 Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-12  1:24 ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 10:07   ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:11     ` Ian Stirling
2001-07-12 12:54       ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:15         ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-07-12 23:21           ` swsusp [was Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?] Pavel Machek
2001-07-12 23:17   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-07-12 20:47 ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Wilfried Weissmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-13  1:11 tas
2001-07-13  3:45 ` Ian Stirling
2001-07-12 15:32 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:23 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:55 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12  4:48 Frank Davis
2001-07-12  5:08 ` John Alvord
2001-07-13  9:10   ` Chuck Hemker
     [not found] <994895240.21189@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-07-12  0:10 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-07-11  9:52 David Balazic
2001-07-11 10:08 ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-07-11 19:12   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-11 15:19 ` C. Slater
     [not found] <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMOEKECGAA.davids@webmaster.com>
2001-07-10 20:43 ` C. Slater
2001-07-11  3:50   ` FORT David
2001-07-11  9:10   ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 15:41     ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 10:16       ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 22:12     ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-11 22:14       ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 23:44           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-12  1:17             ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 15:39               ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12 16:23                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-12 17:37                   ` Mike Borrelli
2001-07-12 18:05                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-13 10:07                     ` Pau Aliagas
2001-07-12 18:48                   ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-12 10:12             ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12 15:32           ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` David Schwartz
2001-07-12  7:23         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 10:05           ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-13  6:50             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 17:58           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-11 22:46       ` Kip Macy
2001-07-11 23:02         ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12  0:31         ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12  1:10           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-11 23:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-12  7:23       ` Ville Herva
2001-07-10 18:42 C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-10 21:11 ` Jesper Juhl

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