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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@redhat.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
Subject: Re: 2.4.7-pre9..
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 20:57:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010720205746.B3692@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010720102614.A13354@suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.31.0107200937310.1547-100000@p4.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0107200937310.1547-100000@p4.transmeta.com>

On Fri, Jul 20 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >
> > > The paging stuff doesn't use any of this. The paging stuff use the page
> > > cache lock bit, and always has.
> >
> > Paging still hits a request, I assumed that's what the (really really)
> > old comment meant to say.
> 
> No. Tha paging stuff (and _all_ regular IO) uses a regular request, with a
> NULL waiter. That's the normal path. That normal path depends on the
> buffer heads associated with the requests and their "bh->b_end_io()"
> function marking other state up-to-date, and then waits on the page being
> locked.

This is perfectly clear. I'm saying 'paging uses a request just like any
other I/O', and you seem to disagree and restate the same thing?! In
fact the lower layers have no way of knowing what is what, paging or
not.

> The req->sem (and now req->completion) thing is a very different thing: it
> is a "we are waiting for this particular request", and is used when it's
> not really IO and doesn't have a bh, but something that has side effects.
> Like an ioctl that causes a special command to the disk to change some
> parameters, or query the size of the disk or something.

Ditto! Are you reading what I write?

> So the comment has just always been wrong, I think. It may be that the
> original swapping code was doing raw requests instead of real IO, so maybe
> the comment was actually correct back in 1992 or something. My memory
> isn't good enough..

Good, so now you agree that the corrected comment (as per pre9) is crap,
and the patch I sent that changes the wording to:

"Ok, this is an expanded form so that we can use the same
request for paging requests."

is so much better than _you_ mixing ->waiting and ->sem into this paging
or non-paging pool?

But in fact the whole comment block should just be removed. It gives no
useful or additional information.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-20 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-20  5:17 2.4.7-pre9 Linus Torvalds
2001-07-20  7:22 ` 2.4.7-pre9 Jens Axboe
2001-07-20  8:15   ` 2.4.7-pre9 Linus Torvalds
2001-07-20  8:26     ` 2.4.7-pre9 Jens Axboe
2001-07-20 16:42       ` 2.4.7-pre9 Linus Torvalds
2001-07-20 18:57         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2001-07-20 10:23 ` 2.4.7-pre9 David Woodhouse
2001-07-23 12:56 ` 2.4.7-pre9 Pavel Machek
2001-07-27 16:18   ` 2.4.7-pre9 Matthew Dharm
2001-07-27 17:46     ` 2.4.7-pre9 Linus Torvalds
2001-07-27 19:47       ` 2.4.7-pre9 Matthew Dharm
2001-07-27 21:00         ` 2.4.7-pre9 Linus Torvalds
2001-07-28  3:53         ` 2.4.7-pre9 David Woodhouse
2001-07-27 19:55           ` 2.4.7-pre9 Matthew Dharm

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