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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: David Luyer <david_luyer@pacific.net.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: /proc/<n>/maps growing...
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:25:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010806132503.A20837@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <997080081.3938.28.camel@typhaon> <20010806105904.A28792@athlon.random> <20010806063003.H3862@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20010806124952.G15925@athlon.random> <20010806070124.J3862@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010806070124.J3862@devserv.devel.redhat.com>; from jakub@redhat.com on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 07:01:24AM -0400

On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 07:01:24AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 12:49:52PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 06:30:03AM -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 10:59:04AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 04:41:21PM +1000, David Luyer wrote:
> > > > > crashes for no apparent reason every 6 hours or so.. unless that could
> > > > > be when
> > > > > it hits some 'limit' on the number of mappings allowed? 
> > > > 
> > > > there's no limit, this is _only_ a performance issue, functionality is
> > > > not compromised in any way [except possibly wasting some memory
> > > > resources that could lead to running out of memory earlier].
> > > 
> > > There is a limit, /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count.
> > 
> > in mainline it's not a sysctl, btw.
> 
> Even worse, it means people not using -ac kernels cannot malloc a lot of
> memory but by recompiling the kernel.

Not that I consider the -ac situation optimal either (however certainly
it's better): if you don't have root privilegies you are screwed. And
this is again not related to merge_segments, the same problem can arise
with the merge_segments in place (but with merge_segments in place it
would probably trigger legally only on 64bit boxes with some dozen
gigabytes of ram). (this is why I didn't liked that limit ;)

The downside of dropping the limit is that we allow the user to allocate
an unlimited amount of unswappable ram per-process (and the current oom
killer will do the very wrong thing since it has no idea of the ram
allocated in the vmas of the process). Nothing compared to `cp /dev/zero
/dev/shm` though...

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-06 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-06  6:41 /proc/<n>/maps growing David Luyer
2001-08-06  7:43 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06  8:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-08-06  9:20   ` David S. Miller
2001-08-06  9:46     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 10:57     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-08-06 12:26       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 12:36         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-08-06 12:45           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 12:50             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-08-06 13:06               ` David S. Miller
2001-08-06 13:29                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-08-06 17:27                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-03 15:44                     ` mmap-rb-7 [was Re: /proc/<n>/maps growing...] Andrea Arcangeli
2001-08-06 17:20           ` /proc/<n>/maps growing Linus Torvalds
2001-08-07  2:24             ` David Luyer
2001-08-06 17:46           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-08-06 16:12     ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-06 17:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-06 10:30   ` Jakub Jelinek
2001-08-06 10:49     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-08-06 11:01       ` Jakub Jelinek
2001-08-06 11:25         ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-08-06 17:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-06 17:26           ` Alan Cox
2001-08-06 22:55             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-06 11:16       ` Jakub Jelinek
2001-08-06 17:18       ` Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-07  3:46 Rick Hohensee

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