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From: David Spreen <david@spreen.de>
To: David Maynor <david.maynor@oit.gatech.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: encrypted swap
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:21:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010807182104.A28490@foobar.toppoint.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010807110412.00a8bec0@pop.prism.gatech.edu>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010807110412.00a8bec0@pop.prism.gatech.edu>; from david.maynor@oit.gatech.edu on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:06:36AM -0400

On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:06:36AM -0400, David Maynor wrote:
> But is the 10% perf hit really gaining you anything, expect to quell your 
> paranoia. What is next, an encrypted /proc so that possible attackers can't 
> gain information about running processes?

This was not the point. I you don't care about your data on disks which
maybe stolen (for example in notebooks) this is okay for me. 
My question was only if there's an existing implementation of this.
10 - 30% performance problems are quite acceptable for 
good privacy aren't they?

So if I understood you guys correctly it would be possible by
getting random-data at boottime and use them to build a key
(for example with the algorythms from the kerneli patch), which
will be used to encrypt the swapped out data right?

Would be cool to hear from some others who are interested in 
such an implementation of crypted swap, maybe we could start
something like that.

Btw. one of the BSDs uses encrypted swap too iirc, how did they
implement?

so long...

David
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-08-07 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-07 15:06 encrypted swap David Maynor
2001-08-07 15:11 ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-07 15:43   ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-08-07 15:30 ` Garett Spencley
2001-08-07 16:21 ` David Spreen [this message]
2001-08-08  8:11 ` Helge Hafting
     [not found] <fa.kmbqblv.v3uvig@ifi.uio.no>
2001-08-18 14:53 ` Encrypted Swap Ted Unangst
2001-08-18 15:17   ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2001-08-20 11:03   ` Helge Hafting
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-17 17:10 David Christensen
2001-08-17 17:21 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-17 18:41   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-17 19:05     ` Dan Hollis
2001-08-18  9:52       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-18 10:24         ` Nicholas Knight
2001-08-18 12:32           ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-17 19:20     ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-18 10:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-07 21:40 encrypted swap David Spreen
2001-08-07 18:53 Torrey Hoffman
2001-08-07 19:15 ` Thomas Pornin
2001-08-07 19:23 ` Dan Podeanu
2001-08-07 19:48   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-07 20:04   ` Marty Poulin
2001-08-07 21:06   ` David Wagner
2001-08-07 21:56     ` D. Stimits
2001-08-07 21:44   ` Pavel Machek
2001-08-07 19:48 ` Justin Guyett
2001-08-07 20:05   ` Alan Cox
2001-08-07 20:17   ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2001-08-07 17:30 Encrypted Swap David Maynor
2001-08-07 17:27 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-07 15:28 encrypted swap David Maynor
2001-08-07 15:51 ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-07 14:37 David Maynor
2001-08-07 14:48 ` Billy Harvey
2001-08-07 16:03 ` Chris Wedgwood
     [not found] <no.id>
2001-08-07 14:17 ` Encrypted Swap Alan Cox
2001-08-07 15:16   ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07 16:01     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07  2:28 David Spreen
2001-08-07  3:56 ` Justin Guyett
2001-08-07  4:01   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07  4:12   ` Steve VanDevender
2001-08-07  4:23     ` John Polyakov
2001-08-07  4:36       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07  5:12       ` Garett Spencley
2001-08-07  5:55         ` Ryan Mack
2001-08-07  6:27           ` John Polyakov
2001-08-06 23:28             ` Rob Landley
2001-08-07 10:10               ` Christopher E. Brown
2001-08-07 14:05                 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-08-07  6:41             ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07  6:57               ` Evgeny Polyakov
2001-08-07  6:45             ` Ryan Mack
2001-08-07  7:08               ` Evgeny Polyakov
2001-08-07  7:23                 ` Sean Hunter
2001-08-07  8:39                   ` Ben Ford
2001-08-07 12:28                   ` Kevin Krieser
2001-08-07 12:39                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-07 14:21                     ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-08-07  7:26                 ` Ryan Mack
2001-08-07  7:34                 ` Jeffrey Considine
2001-08-07  7:49                 ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07  9:01                 ` Peter Wächtler
2001-08-07 12:37           ` Michael Bacarella
2001-08-17 14:50           ` Holger Lubitz
2001-08-17 15:39             ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-17 15:57               ` Holger Lubitz
2001-08-17 16:34                 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-08-17 16:50                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-17 17:06               ` Adrian Cox
2001-08-17 17:16                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-17 17:22                   ` Jacob Alifrangis
2001-08-17 17:36                   ` Adrian Cox
2001-08-17 18:51                     ` Nicholas Knight
2001-08-17 19:30                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-18  8:51                         ` Adrian Cox
2001-08-18 11:02                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-19  8:51                             ` Adrian Cox
2001-08-20  1:27                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-20 11:08                             ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-20 11:50                             ` Ian Stirling
2001-08-21 13:55                         ` Andreas Bombe
2001-08-17 20:00                       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-07 20:09         ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2001-08-07  7:34       ` Steve VanDevender
2001-08-07  7:55         ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07 15:17         ` Garett Spencley
2001-08-07  7:49     ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-07  7:58       ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07  9:23         ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-07 13:29           ` Wichert Akkerman
2001-08-07 15:56           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07 16:54             ` Alan Cox
2001-08-07 17:10               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07  9:52     ` Brian May
2001-08-07 14:48       ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-08-07 15:59         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07 16:18           ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-08-07 16:24             ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-08  2:13       ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-08-07 20:30   ` Ian Stirling
2001-08-07 10:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli

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