From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>
To: Nicholas Knight <tegeran@home.com>
Cc: Adrian Cox <adrian@humboldt.co.uk>,
root@chaos.analogic.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Encrypted Swap
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:00:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010817140049.G17372@turbolinux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1010817130849.2216A-100000@chaos.analogic.com> <3B7D5603.8080805@humboldt.co.uk> <01081711510800.00814@c779218-a>
In-Reply-To: <01081711510800.00814@c779218-a>
On Aug 17, 2001 11:51 -0700, Nicholas Knight wrote:
> Now that we've established that SDRAM doesn't neccisarily get erased from
> rebooting, does anyone know how long it takes for SDRAM to clear after
> losing power? It seems to me that the fact that the RAM isn't neccisarily
> wiped by the BIOS at boot is less important than wether or not shutting
> down the system and having it shut down for 10 minutes causes the RAM to
> be cleared so that any intruder/thief would be unable to get the
> information neccisary to decrypt the swap...
Hmm, it was my understanding that all PC BIOSes DO zero out memory,
although this is not necessarily a requirement of the hardware. The
reason I say this is because one of the features of the Linux BIOS
project is to allow crashdump analysis after a reboot, by pulling
the dump from the RAM after a reboot. You apparently are not able
to do this with normal PC BIOSes because they clear the RAM after
a reset.
That said, I'm not sure what the requirements of different kinds of
RAM chips are for initialization, so there may not be a REQUIREMENT
to clear the memory, but rather it is part of the nebulous "PC spec".
Cheers, Andreas
--
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\ would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?"
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-08-17 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-08-07 2:28 Encrypted Swap David Spreen
2001-08-07 3:56 ` Justin Guyett
2001-08-07 4:01 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07 4:12 ` Steve VanDevender
2001-08-07 4:23 ` John Polyakov
2001-08-07 4:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07 5:12 ` Garett Spencley
2001-08-07 5:55 ` Ryan Mack
2001-08-07 6:27 ` John Polyakov
2001-08-06 23:28 ` Rob Landley
2001-08-07 10:10 ` Christopher E. Brown
2001-08-07 14:05 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-08-07 6:41 ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07 6:57 ` Evgeny Polyakov
2001-08-07 6:45 ` Ryan Mack
2001-08-07 7:08 ` Evgeny Polyakov
2001-08-07 7:23 ` Sean Hunter
2001-08-07 8:39 ` Ben Ford
2001-08-07 12:28 ` Kevin Krieser
2001-08-07 12:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-07 13:39 ` Re[2]: " s0mbre
2001-08-08 2:24 ` Re[2]: Encrypted Swap (random off-topic snippet) Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-08-08 2:51 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-08-07 14:21 ` Encrypted Swap Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-08-07 7:26 ` Ryan Mack
2001-08-07 7:34 ` Jeffrey Considine
2001-08-07 7:49 ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07 9:01 ` Peter Wächtler
2001-08-07 12:37 ` Michael Bacarella
2001-08-17 14:50 ` Holger Lubitz
2001-08-17 15:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-17 15:57 ` Holger Lubitz
2001-08-17 16:34 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-08-17 16:50 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-17 17:06 ` Adrian Cox
2001-08-17 17:16 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-17 17:22 ` Jacob Alifrangis
2001-08-17 17:36 ` Adrian Cox
2001-08-17 18:51 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-08-17 19:30 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-18 8:51 ` Adrian Cox
2001-08-18 11:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-19 8:51 ` Adrian Cox
2001-08-20 1:27 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-20 11:08 ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-20 11:50 ` Ian Stirling
2001-08-21 13:55 ` Andreas Bombe
2001-08-17 20:00 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2001-08-07 20:09 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2001-08-07 7:34 ` Steve VanDevender
2001-08-07 7:55 ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07 15:17 ` Garett Spencley
2001-08-07 7:49 ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-07 7:58 ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07 9:23 ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-07 13:29 ` Wichert Akkerman
2001-08-07 15:56 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-07 17:10 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07 9:52 ` Brian May
2001-08-07 14:48 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-08-07 15:59 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07 16:18 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-08-07 16:24 ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-07 17:14 ` [OT] Cold, Dead Hard drives (was: Encrypted Swap) Stephen Satchell
2001-08-08 2:13 ` Encrypted Swap Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-08-07 20:30 ` Ian Stirling
2001-08-07 10:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-08-13 3:32 ` swap & deadlocks [was Re: Encrypted Swap] Pavel Machek
[not found] <no.id>
2001-08-07 14:17 ` Encrypted Swap Alan Cox
2001-08-07 15:16 ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-08-07 16:01 ` Chris Wedgwood
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-07 14:37 encrypted swap David Maynor
2001-08-07 14:48 ` Billy Harvey
2001-08-07 16:03 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-07 15:06 David Maynor
2001-08-07 15:11 ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-07 15:43 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-08-07 15:30 ` Garett Spencley
2001-08-07 16:21 ` David Spreen
2001-08-08 8:11 ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-07 15:28 David Maynor
2001-08-07 15:51 ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-07 17:30 Encrypted Swap David Maynor
2001-08-07 17:27 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-07 18:53 encrypted swap Torrey Hoffman
2001-08-07 19:15 ` Thomas Pornin
2001-08-07 19:23 ` Dan Podeanu
2001-08-07 19:48 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-07 20:04 ` Marty Poulin
2001-08-07 21:06 ` David Wagner
2001-08-07 21:56 ` D. Stimits
2001-08-07 21:44 ` Pavel Machek
2001-08-07 19:48 ` Justin Guyett
2001-08-07 20:05 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-07 20:17 ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2001-08-07 21:40 David Spreen
2001-08-17 17:10 Encrypted Swap David Christensen
2001-08-17 17:21 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-17 18:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-17 19:05 ` Dan Hollis
2001-08-18 9:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-18 10:24 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-08-18 12:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-17 19:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-18 10:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] <fa.kmbqblv.v3uvig@ifi.uio.no>
2001-08-18 14:53 ` Ted Unangst
2001-08-18 15:17 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2001-08-20 11:03 ` Helge Hafting
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