From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:50:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:49:51 -0400 Received: from sdsl-208-184-147-195.dsl.sjc.megapath.net ([208.184.147.195]:20085 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:49:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:49:47 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: "Grover, Andrew" Cc: "'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" Subject: Re: source control? Message-ID: <20010823154947.X25998@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Grover, Andrew" , "'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" In-Reply-To: <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E89006CDE0A4@orsmsx35.jf.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E89006CDE0A4@orsmsx35.jf.intel.com>; from andrew.grover@intel.com on Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 02:29:18PM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 02:29:18PM -0700, Grover, Andrew wrote: > Is Linux development ever going to use source control? > > This was talked about at the Kernel Summit, and I haven't heard anything > about it since. There are two features that Linus wants in BitKeeper that we haven't finished yet. One is the removal of the revision control files from the working tree and the other is the ability to break the tree up into logical units (we call 'em filesets) so that you can more easily pick and choose which patches you want in your tree. Linus pinged me about these a while back, we've made some progress on them but they aren't done yet. When they are done we'll let Linus take it for a whirl and see what he thinks. In the meantime, the PPC people maintain a pure Linux tree in BK, you can see it at http://ppc.bkbits.net and Ted Tso has recently done a nice import of the various kernel versions complete with Linus' change logs. I need to work with the PPC guys and Ted to get to one tree; it's not an easy issue because the PPC have a lot of changes in their tree but Ted's tree was done more nicely, he did some extra work to preserve timestamps and comments. And to avoid yet-another-BK-flamewar, I'm not saying Linus will or will not use BitKeeper, all I'm saying is that we're making changes he wants and then he'll see if it is good enough for him. I will say that he has eased slightly off of his original position of "I'll use BitKeeper when it is the best" because I asked him if that meant what I think both he and I would mean, i.e., "it is not physically possible for it to be better" as opposed to "it's better than all the other crap out there". I think we agreed we have to be well past #2 but not necessarily to #1 (which is a good thing, at the rate we're going we'll hit the best sometime this century but that's as close as I want to call it :-) -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm