Re: Will 2.6 require Python for any configuration ? (CML2)

[David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>]

On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 09:26:33PM +0200, Jes Sorensen wrote:
> >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
> 
> Tom> On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 10:36:20AM -0500, Bob Glamm wrote:
> Tom> And the same set of replies.  Doing it in !python would be much
> Tom> harder than it sounds.  But people have stepped up and said
> Tom> they'd do it in C.  So python is only needed for xconfig.  And
> Tom> that's just trading tcl for python.  The other thing is, the
> Tom> python cml2 tools are supposed to eliminate a bunch of other
> Tom> tools and remove some of the dependancies.
> 
> Most of these tools were written in bash or C ... going the python way
> is a major loss.
> 
> >> Why isn't ncurses a pain?  For the same reason ncurses wasn't a
> >> pain when 'make menuconfig' (lxdialog) was introduced (yes, I did
> >> many a 'make config'): curses/ncurses was already on just about
> >> every system running Linux - it was built into the text editor.
> 
> Tom> And many a new system has python.
> 
> It still doesn't solve the situation of people building embedded
> systems who do only have a bare minimum on their systems. Or people
> who are bringing up systems who do not have network/floppy available
> and do not want to move their disks between systems constantly in
> order to configure their kernels. I have brought this point up
> several times to the CML2 developer and every time I received the
> utterly useless answer saying I should move my source to another box,
> configure it there and move it back to the devel box.
> 
> >> It does surprise me that Linus would actually allow this to happen.
> >> It's been my impression that he favors a clean, elegant solution.
> >> Maybe it's just me, but adding a dependency solely for the sake of
> >> building the kernel doesn't strike me as very clean or elegant.
> 
> Tom> Because the python solution happened to fix all of the problems.
> 
> And introduces new problems that so far haven't been addressed.
> 
> The solution seems to be that someone implements CML2 in C, once that
> happens we are talking something completely different.

Sounds like we have another volunteer here?!


/David
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