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From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
Cc: davem@redhat.com, ak@muc.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Excessive TCP retransmits over lossless, high latency link
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:57:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010903185700.A12529@thefinal.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010901210212.A3361@thefinal.cern.ch> <200109031714.VAA24484@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
In-Reply-To: <200109031714.VAA24484@ms2.inr.ac.ru>; from kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru on Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:14:47PM +0400

kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru wrote:
> > Yes, definitely.  Btw, I saw a ping round trip time of 162s just now.
> 
> I do not understand, do you share this link with someone or
> ping over tcp connection?

I was doing ping with the TCP connection going.  When there is no TCP
connection, ping time is 1-1.5 seconds.

> > I saw very few retransmits in a single message download.  SACK appears
> > occasionally.  I don't really understand the local reaction to SACK, or
> > why a SACK option appears in one ACK sent locally and not the following
> > ACK, even though the SACK mentions data that does not arrive between the
> > two locally sent ACKs.
> 
> But I do not see _any_ sacks in your tcpdumps.

Sorry, you are right.  I did see an sack, but not in this trace.

> > The throughput difference was obvious: POP3 negotiation + 30k message +
> > headers took:
> > 
> >         5 min 31 sec       downloading unknown OS   ->  Linux 2.4.7
> >         2 min 15 sec       downloading Linux 2.4.2  ->  Linux 2.4.7
> 
> It is dominated by rtt, one rtt per segment. It is very strange
> that cwnd does not want to open. Maybe, it is worth to tcpdump at proxy.

Do you mean that you want to see the Linux -> Linux connection, with
tcpdumps at both ends?

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-03 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-01 17:17 Excessive TCP retransmits over lossless, high latency link Jamie Lokier
2001-09-01 17:41 ` Andi Kleen
2001-09-01 18:12   ` kuznet
2001-09-01 18:22   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-01 19:07     ` Neil Spring
2001-09-01 18:08 ` kuznet
2001-09-01 18:55   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-01 19:20     ` kuznet
2001-09-01 20:02       ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-01 20:39         ` Lukas Beeler
2001-09-03 17:14         ` kuznet
2001-09-03 17:57           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2001-09-03 18:07             ` kuznet
2001-09-01 19:59 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <20010901195532.B2714@thefinal.cern.ch.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <200109011920.XAA20031@ms2.inr.ac.ru.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20010901210212.A3361@thefinal.cern.ch.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20010901223918.A4053@mail.projectdream.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-09-01 21:45       ` Andi Kleen

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