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From: Charles Cazabon <linux-kernel@discworld.dyndns.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19]
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:03:02 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010906110302.B2323@qcc.sk.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010906203854.A23109@castle.nmd.msu.ru> <20010906164314.74F68BC06C@spike.porcupine.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010906164314.74F68BC06C@spike.porcupine.org>; from wietse@porcupine.org on Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 12:43:14PM -0400

Wietse Venema <wietse@porcupine.org> wrote:
> 
> An SMTP MTA is required to correctly recognize user@[ip.address]
> as local.  That's the rules, like it or not. These address forms
> are actually being used, like it or not.

Yes.  MTAs have to work around this; qmail does a reasonable job.  Why
not look at how djb does this?  See ipme.c.
 
> It also is desirable for an MTA to treat clients on local subnets
> different than strangers that happen to be on the same class A,
> like it or not.  Failure to do so can make one end up on black
> lists, like it or not.

Having an MTA automatically treat clients on "local subnets" differently
than the rest of the 'net at large is definitely _not_ desirable.  The
administrator should have to explicitly configure the MTA to grant
additional access to every subnet he desires; anything else is begging
for trouble in the form of absued relaying privileges.
 
Charles
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-06 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20010905152738.C5912BC06D@spike.porcupine.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20010905182033.D3926@emma1.emma.line.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-09-05 19:26     ` ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19 Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 13:11       ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 13:35       ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 14:04         ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 14:21           ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 15:37             ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 15:58               ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 16:39                 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Alan Cox
2001-09-06 16:45                   ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 16:44                 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:47                   ` Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 17:04                     ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:50                   ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:01                     ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Alan Cox
2001-09-06 17:23                       ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:45                         ` Charles Cazabon
2001-09-06 18:11                         ` Steve VanDevender
2001-09-06 18:25                           ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 19:10                             ` Steve VanDevender
2001-09-06 19:47                             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:16                               ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 19:34                         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 19:41                           ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 20:18                             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:11                           ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 20:23                             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:31                               ` Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 20:52                                 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-07  9:06                             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-07  8:52                         ` Matthew Kirkwood
2001-09-08 16:31                           ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-13 14:35                       ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-06 17:03                     ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 17:23                     ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 17:39                       ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 18:23                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-07  1:47                           ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-07  5:48                           ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip aliasbug " Ben Greear
2001-09-07  5:50                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-17 21:39                               ` Ben Greear
2001-09-07  6:26                             ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-07  6:21                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-06 19:15                         ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug " dean gaudet
2001-09-06 19:33                           ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 20:51                         ` Matti Aarnio
2001-09-07  7:29                           ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-07  7:35                             ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-08 13:16                             ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Kai Henningsen
2001-09-07 10:30                         ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Mike Jagdis
2001-09-07 11:04                           ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-07 15:34                         ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-09-06 18:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-06 16:01               ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 16:38                 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:43                   ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:03                     ` Charles Cazabon [this message]
2001-09-06 17:05                   ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 17:37                     ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 17:55               ` kuznet
2001-09-06 14:51           ` ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19 Alan Cox
2001-09-06 14:17         ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-08 12:42       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-09-09  0:37         ` Matthias Andree

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