From: Charles Cazabon <linux-kernel@discworld.dyndns.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:45:12 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010906114512.A17941@qcc.sk.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15f2WT-0008Tp-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20010906172316.E0B74BC06C@spike.porcupine.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010906172316.E0B74BC06C@spike.porcupine.org>; from wietse@porcupine.org on Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:23:16PM -0400
Wietse Venema <wietse@porcupine.org> wrote:
> Alan Cox:
> > How for example do you propose to answer the question for the case
> > Q: "is this local" A: "it depends on the sender"
> > With netfilter and transparent proxying active this is entirely possible
>
> Please explain the relevance for a real-world, SMTP based, MTA.
>
> If an MTA receives a delivery request for user@[ip.address] then
> the MTA has to decide if it is the final destination. This is
> required by the SMTP RFC.
>
> In order to enable SMTP RFC compliance, Linux has to provide the
> MTA with the necessary information. Requiring the sysadmin to
> enumerate all IP addresses in a file, as suggested by some other
> poster, is impractical.
I was that other poster. Typing "is impractical" into your MUA doesn't
make it a fact. It's not only a very practical solution, it's the
_most_ practical solution.
As other posters have noted, there's no magic incantation to tell you
which IP addresses happen to have an smtpd listening which are the
self-same MTA. The only person who's going to have this information is
the administrator.
Why are you afraid to ask the mail administrator to do configuration of
the MTA? Are you afraid they're idiots?
Charles
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2001-09-05 19:26 ` ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19 Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 13:11 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 13:35 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 14:04 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 14:21 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 15:37 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 15:58 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 16:39 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Alan Cox
2001-09-06 16:45 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 16:44 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:47 ` Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 17:04 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:50 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:01 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Alan Cox
2001-09-06 17:23 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:45 ` Charles Cazabon [this message]
2001-09-06 18:11 ` Steve VanDevender
2001-09-06 18:25 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 19:10 ` Steve VanDevender
2001-09-06 19:47 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:16 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 19:34 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 19:41 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 20:18 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:11 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 20:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:31 ` Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 20:52 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-07 9:06 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-07 8:52 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2001-09-08 16:31 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-13 14:35 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-06 17:03 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 17:23 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 17:39 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 18:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-07 1:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-07 5:48 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip aliasbug " Ben Greear
2001-09-07 5:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-17 21:39 ` Ben Greear
2001-09-07 6:26 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-07 6:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-06 19:15 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug " dean gaudet
2001-09-06 19:33 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 20:51 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-09-07 7:29 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-07 7:35 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-08 13:16 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Kai Henningsen
2001-09-07 10:30 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Mike Jagdis
2001-09-07 11:04 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-07 15:34 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-09-06 18:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-06 16:01 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 16:38 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:43 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:03 ` Charles Cazabon
2001-09-06 17:05 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 17:37 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 17:55 ` kuznet
2001-09-06 14:51 ` ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19 Alan Cox
2001-09-06 14:17 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-08 12:42 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-09-09 0:37 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 17:39 notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Sam James
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