From: Kurt Roeckx <Q@ping.be>
To: Wietse Venema <wietse@porcupine.org>
Cc: Andrey Savochkin <saw@saw.sw.com.sg>,
Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19]
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 17:34:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010907173435.A469@ping.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010906212303.A23595@castle.nmd.msu.ru> <20010906173948.502BFBC06C@spike.porcupine.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010906173948.502BFBC06C@spike.porcupine.org>
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:39:48PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote:
> Andrey Savochkin:
> > > That is not practical. Surely there is an API to find out if an IP
> > > address connects to the machine itself. If every UNIX system on
> > > this planet can do it, then surely Linux can do it.
> >
> > Let me correct you: you need to recognize not addresses that result in
> > connecting to the _machine_ itself, but connecting to the same _MTA_.
>
> The SMTP RFC requires that user@[ip.address] is correctly recognized
> as a final destination. This requires that Linux provides the MTA
> with information about IP addresses that correspond with INADDR_ANY.
I see no such thing in the RFC. What I do see is that you're
allow to use the [IP address] notation. It can't see where it
says that if that IP address is an IP address of the local host,
that it should accept it as the final destination.
I can perfectly imagine that the same hosts runs serveral MTAs,
on different IP addresses, and that both might have the same
username, but it's for a different person.
If an MTA doesn't listen to INADDR_ANY, why should it need to
know all addresses that might correspond to it? That shouldn't
mean that if it does listen to INADDR_ANY, it should know them
all, but that could be something an MTA might want to do.
Like Andrey says, it needs to go to the same MTA.
If for some reason it was needed to use the IP address in the
destination, it's very likely that when it reaches the final
host, it will be a connection to that IP address. Atleast, seen
from the connecting host. If it's using NAT, maybe there should
be some option to tell it to accept that IP address as a final
destination too.
Kurt
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2001-09-05 19:26 ` ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19 Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 13:11 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 13:35 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 14:04 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 14:21 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 15:37 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 15:58 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 16:39 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Alan Cox
2001-09-06 16:45 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 16:44 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:47 ` Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 17:04 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:50 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:01 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Alan Cox
2001-09-06 17:23 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:45 ` Charles Cazabon
2001-09-06 18:11 ` Steve VanDevender
2001-09-06 18:25 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 19:10 ` Steve VanDevender
2001-09-06 19:47 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:16 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 19:34 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 19:41 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 20:18 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:11 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 20:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 20:31 ` Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 20:52 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-07 9:06 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-07 8:52 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2001-09-08 16:31 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-13 14:35 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-06 17:03 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Andi Kleen
2001-09-06 17:23 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 17:39 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 18:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-07 1:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-07 5:48 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip aliasbug " Ben Greear
2001-09-07 5:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-17 21:39 ` Ben Greear
2001-09-07 6:26 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-07 6:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-06 19:15 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug " dean gaudet
2001-09-06 19:33 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 20:51 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-09-07 7:29 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-07 7:35 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-08 13:16 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias Kai Henningsen
2001-09-07 10:30 ` notion of a local address [was: Re: ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19] Mike Jagdis
2001-09-07 11:04 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-07 15:34 ` Kurt Roeckx [this message]
2001-09-06 18:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-06 16:01 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-06 16:38 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 16:43 ` Wietse Venema
2001-09-06 17:03 ` Charles Cazabon
2001-09-06 17:05 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 17:37 ` Andrey Savochkin
2001-09-06 17:55 ` kuznet
2001-09-06 14:51 ` ioctl SIOCGIFNETMASK: ip alias bug 2.4.9 and 2.2.19 Alan Cox
2001-09-06 14:17 ` Matthias Andree
2001-09-08 12:42 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-09-09 0:37 ` Matthias Andree
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