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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: linux-2.4.10-pre5
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 06:16:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010909061620.O11329@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010909053015.L11329@athlon.random> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109082051040.1161-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109082051040.1161-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 08:58:26PM -0700

On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 08:58:26PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I'd rather fix that, then.

we'd just need to define a new kind of communication API between a ro
mounted fs and the blkdev layer to avoid the special cases. I
intentionally didn't changed the API and I didn't broken the rules so I
could use the code in 2.4 with all the filesystems transparently (also
the ones not in mainline of course).

> Otherwise we'll just end up carrying broken baggage around forever. Which
> is not the way to do things.

it's not broken, nor even very complex, it may be even cleaner but such
a cleanup that would involve all the filesystems out there wasn't
actually in my high prio list (and certainly not something I would like
to do in 2.4 too).

It's like having numbers to name devices when everybody (apps included)
only knows the names, not the numbers, the API totally sucks obviously,
but that doesn't affect at all the core code that you benchmark etc..,
it doesn't affect when you read or write to the device etc... and this
is why nobody was forced to clean it up yet because the pain was more
than the gain (in such case the pain was even bigger of course, because
the change will be visible to userspace and not only breaking all the
fses).

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-09  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-08  4:18 linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-08  6:32 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5: drivers/net/wan compile fixes Eyal Lebedinsky
2001-09-08  6:36 ` 2.4.9-ac10 (not 2.4.10-pre5!) wan fixes Eyal Lebedinsky
2001-09-08  8:32 ` 2.4.10-pre5 compile error George Bonser
2001-09-08 17:19 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-08 17:30   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-08 17:57     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-08 18:01       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  1:09         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  1:20           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  1:38             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  1:53               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  2:22                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  2:31                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  3:30                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  3:58                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  4:16                         ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-09-09  4:28                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 12:09                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Rik van Riel
2001-09-09 14:53                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09 18:17                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 20:18                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-10  0:39                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Simon Kirby
2001-09-10  8:30                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Kai Henningsen
2001-09-11  5:29                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Peter Samuelson
2001-09-11 11:29                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Kai Henningsen
2001-09-10 21:22                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-09 14:47                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09 16:24                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 17:29                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09 23:56                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-09  4:29                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andreas Dilger
2001-09-09  4:54                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  6:17                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andreas Dilger
2001-09-09 17:31                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 19:19                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-09 23:24                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 23:54                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alan Cox
2001-09-10  0:04                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  0:23                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10  0:23                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  0:38                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10  1:04                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10  1:45                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  1:55                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10  2:02                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  2:06                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10  2:15                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  2:22                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  2:20                                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  2:40                                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  3:02                                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  3:36                                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 19:06                                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  2:03                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10  2:41                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10 21:18                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 21:23                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-10 21:54                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 22:39                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-10 23:13                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 23:25                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-10 22:15                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10 22:26                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10 22:39                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Rik van Riel
2001-09-10 23:14                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 23:16                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11  0:53                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Rik van Riel
2001-09-11  6:39                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Hua Zhong
2001-09-11 15:12                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11 15:44                                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 15:48                                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11 16:05                                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-11 16:07                                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 16:07                                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-11 16:13                                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Martin Dalecki
2001-09-11 17:17                                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 10:02                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 20:07                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Rik van Riel
2001-09-10 23:20                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11  0:20                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11  1:16                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11  2:27                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11  7:45                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Helge Hafting
2001-09-11 10:27                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 15:39                                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11 16:52                                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-09 19:51                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-09  9:05                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-09 13:14                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Anton Altaparmakov
2001-09-09 14:31                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-08 21:15     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andreas Dilger
2001-09-09  0:59       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-08 22:01 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Thiago Vinhas de Moraes

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