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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@caldera.de>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.10pre7aa1
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:52:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010910205250.B22889@caldera.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010910175416.A714@athlon.random> <200109101741.f8AHfwx17136@ns.caldera.de> <20010910200344.C714@athlon.random>
In-Reply-To: <20010910200344.C714@athlon.random>; from andrea@suse.de on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 08:03:44PM +0200

On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 08:03:44PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > Do we really need yet-another per-CPU thread for this?  I'd prefer to have
> > the context thread per-CPU instead (like in Ben's asynchio patch) and do
> > this as well.
> 
> The first desing solution I proposed to Paul and Dipankar was just to
> use ksoftirqd for that (in short set need_resched and wait it to be
> cleared), it worked out nicely and it was a sensible improvement with
> respect to their previous patches. (also it was reliable, we cannot
> afford allocations in the wait_for_rcu path to avoid having to introduce
> fail paths) it was also a noop to the ksoftirqd paths.
> 
> However they remarked ksoftirqd wasn't a RT thread so under very high
> load it could introduce an higher latency to the wait_for_rcu calls.

Hmm, I don't see why latency is important for rcu - we only want to
free datastructures.. (mm load?).

On the other hands they are the experts on RCU, not I so I'll believe them.

> So in short if you really are in pain for 8k per cpu to get the best
> runtime behaviour and cleaner code I'd at least suggest to use the
> ksoftirqd way that should be the next best step.

My problem with this appropech is just that we use kernel threads for
more and more stuff - always creating new ones.  I think at some point
they will sum up badly.

	Christoph

-- 
Of course it doesn't work. We've performed a software upgrade.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-10 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20010910175416.A714@athlon.random>
2001-09-10 17:41 ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-10 18:03   ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10 18:49     ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-10 19:01       ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10 19:03         ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-10 19:08           ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10 18:52     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2001-09-10 19:06       ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-16 17:00         ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 17:23           ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-16 17:34             ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 18:16               ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-16 19:04             ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-12  8:24 ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Rusty Russell
2001-09-17  9:13 2.4.10pre7aa1 Dipankar Sarma
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-12 11:04 2.4.10pre7aa1 Dipankar Sarma
2001-09-12 14:03 ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-12 14:42   ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Dipankar Sarma
2001-09-12 14:53     ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-16 12:23       ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Rusty Russell
2001-09-11 13:05 2.4.10pre7aa1 Dipankar Sarma
2001-09-11 13:56 ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-11 14:27   ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Dipankar Sarma
2001-09-11 12:22 2.4.10pre7aa1 Dipankar Sarma
2001-09-11 11:53 2.4.10pre7aa1 Dipankar Sarma
2001-09-11 11:57 ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-11  9:39 2.4.10pre7aa1 Maneesh Soni
2001-09-11 11:12 ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-11  8:51 2.4.10pre7aa1 Dipankar Sarma
2001-09-11 11:04 ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-11 12:40   ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Alan Cox
2001-09-11 13:49     ` 2.4.10pre7aa1 Andrea Arcangeli

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