From: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
To: gallir@m3d.uib.es
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:45:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010916204528.6fd48f5b.skraw@ithnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010916201657.052b0fc0.skraw@ithnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0109161330000.9536-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109161856380.31311-100000@m3d.uib.es> <20010916201657.052b0fc0.skraw@ithnet.com>
On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:16:57 +0200 Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:06:45 +0200 (MET) Ricardo Galli <gallir@m3d.uib.es>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
> > >
> > > Agreed. I'd be great if there was an option to say "Don't swap out
> > > memory that was allocated by these programs. If you run out of disk
> > > buffers, toss the oldest ones and start re-using them."
> >
> > More easy though (for cases of listening mp3's and backups): cache pages
> > that were accesed only "once"(*) several seconds ago must be discarded
> > first. It only implies a check against an access counter and a "last
> > accesed" epoch fields of the page.
>
> Well, I guess this is everybody's first idea about the problem: make an
initial
> timestamp for knowing how _old_ an allocation really is,
Thinking again about it, I guess I would prefer a FIFO-list of allocated pages.
This would allow to "know" the age simply by its position in the list. You
wouldn't need a timestamp then, and even better it works equally well for
systems with high vm load and low, because you do not deal with absolute time
comparisons, but relative.
That sounds pretty good for me.
Still the problem with page accesses is not solved, but if you had an idea on
that, you could manipulate the alloc-list simply by moving accessed pages to
the end (one or several positions) of the list which effectively "youngers"
them. So you came around any new members of some structs with simple (and fast)
list operations.
Comments?
Regards,
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-09-16 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-09-16 15:19 broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 15:23 ` Michael Rothwell
2001-09-16 16:33 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 16:50 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-16 17:12 ` Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 17:06 ` Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 17:18 ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 18:16 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-16 18:45 ` Stephan von Krawczynski [this message]
2001-09-21 3:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-21 10:21 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 14:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-21 14:23 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-23 13:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-23 13:27 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 10:43 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 12:13 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 12:55 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 13:01 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-22 11:01 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-22 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 9:36 ` Linux VM design VDA
2001-09-24 11:06 ` Dave Jones
2001-09-24 12:15 ` Kirill Ratkin
2001-09-24 13:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 14:05 ` VDA
2001-09-24 14:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 14:42 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 18:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-24 18:46 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-09-24 19:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-24 19:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 17:27 ` Rob Landley
2001-09-24 21:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-25 9:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-25 16:03 ` bill davidsen
2001-09-24 19:11 ` Dan Mann
2001-09-25 10:55 ` VDA
2001-09-16 19:43 ` broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 19:57 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 20:17 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 20:29 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-16 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 22:47 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-16 22:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 22:59 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-16 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 23:29 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 15:35 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 16:34 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 17:20 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 17:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 0:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 1:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 2:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 5:11 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-17 12:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 12:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 14:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 16:14 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-17 16:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 15:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 12:26 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 15:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 12:04 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 12:09 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 3:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-17 8:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-17 12:12 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 15:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-22 19:59 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-22 20:46 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-22 21:46 ` Peter Magnusson
2001-09-22 19:59 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-22 20:18 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 22:15 Rob Fuller
2001-09-19 22:21 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-19 22:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-20 3:16 ` GOTO Masanori
2001-09-20 7:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-19 22:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 22:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 22:51 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2001-09-17 15:40 Rob Fuller
2001-09-17 16:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 9:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-19 19:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 21:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 22:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 22:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 23:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-20 11:28 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-20 12:06 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 8:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-21 12:10 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 15:27 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-22 7:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-25 11:04 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-20 12:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-20 13:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-24 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-26 18:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-26 23:44 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-27 13:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-01 11:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-19 23:00 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 8:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-21 12:01 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-22 2:14 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-22 3:09 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 14:29 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-09-21 14:35 ` Horst von Brand
2001-09-19 21:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 21:55 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-20 13:02 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 19:07 vm rewrite ready [Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9] Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 15:19 ` broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Phillip Susi
2001-09-16 19:33 ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 19:52 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] <fa.i95if5v.74un2p@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.gu977tv.1b7u0g9@ifi.uio.no>
2001-09-16 18:06 ` Dan Maas
2001-09-15 22:43 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-15 23:50 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-16 5:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 8:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-17 10:25 ` Tonu Samuel
2001-09-16 16:47 ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 18:36 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-16 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 14:04 ` Olaf Zaplinski
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