From: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <ast@domdv.de>
Subject: Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:34:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010917183433.5b992e74.skraw@ithnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109170846050.8847-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010917173555.460c8ea3.skraw@ithnet.com> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109170846050.8847-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@transmeta.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote:
> >
> > - cpu load goes pretty high (11-12 according to xosview)during several
> > occasions, upto the point where you cannot even move the mouse. Compared to
an
> > once tested ac-version it is not _that_ nice. I have some problems cat'ing
> > /proc/meminfo, too. I takes sometimes pretty long (minutes).
>
> It's not really CPU load - the loadaverage in Linux (and some other UNIXes
> too) also accounts for disk wait.
Well, what I meant was: compared to the _same_ situation and test bed, the load
seems "pretty high". ac versions are somewhat lower in this setup.
> > - the meminfo shows me great difference to former versions in the balancing
of
> > inact_dirty and active. This pre10 tends to have a _lot_ more inact_dirty
pages
> > than active (compared to pre9 and before) in my test. I guess this is
intended
> > by this (used-once) patch. So take this as a hint, that your work performs
as
> > expected.
>
> No, I think they are related, and bad. I suspect it just means that pages
> really do not get elevated to the active list, and it's probably _too_
> unwilling to activate pages. That's bad too - it means that the inactive
> list is the one solely responsible for working set changes, and the VM
> won't bother with any other pages. Which also leads to bad results..
Hm, remember my setup: I read a lot from CD, write it to disk and read a lot
from nfs and write it to disk. Basically both are read once - write once
setups, so the pages are touched once (or worst twice) at maximum, so I see a
good chance none of them ever make it to the active list, according to your
state explanation from previous posts. And thats what I see (I guess). If I do
a CD compare (read disk, read CD and compare) I see lots of pages walk over to
active. And that again looks as you told before. I think it does work as you
said.
Anyway I cannot "feel" a difference in performance (maybe even worse than
before), but it _looks_ cleaner. How about taking it as a first step in the
cleanup direction? :-)
Regards, Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-09-17 16:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-09-16 15:19 broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 15:23 ` Michael Rothwell
2001-09-16 16:33 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 16:50 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-16 17:12 ` Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 17:06 ` Ricardo Galli
2001-09-16 17:18 ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 18:16 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-16 18:45 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 3:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-21 10:21 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 14:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-21 14:23 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-23 13:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-23 13:27 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 10:43 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 12:13 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 12:55 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-21 13:01 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-22 11:01 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-22 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 9:36 ` Linux VM design VDA
2001-09-24 11:06 ` Dave Jones
2001-09-24 12:15 ` Kirill Ratkin
2001-09-24 13:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 14:05 ` VDA
2001-09-24 14:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 14:42 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 18:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-24 18:46 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-09-24 19:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-24 19:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-24 17:27 ` Rob Landley
2001-09-24 21:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-25 9:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-25 16:03 ` bill davidsen
2001-09-24 19:11 ` Dan Mann
2001-09-25 10:55 ` VDA
2001-09-16 19:43 ` broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 19:57 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 20:17 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 20:29 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-16 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 22:47 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-16 22:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 22:59 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-16 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 23:29 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 15:35 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 16:34 ` Stephan von Krawczynski [this message]
2001-09-17 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 17:20 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-17 17:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 0:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 1:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 2:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 5:11 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-17 12:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 12:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 14:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-17 16:14 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-17 16:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 15:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 12:26 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 15:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 12:04 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 12:09 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 3:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-09-17 8:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-17 12:12 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-17 15:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-22 19:59 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-22 20:46 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-22 21:46 ` Peter Magnusson
2001-09-22 19:59 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-22 20:18 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 22:15 Rob Fuller
2001-09-19 22:21 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-19 22:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-20 3:16 ` GOTO Masanori
2001-09-20 7:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-19 22:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 22:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 22:51 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2001-09-17 15:40 Rob Fuller
2001-09-17 16:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 9:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-19 19:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 21:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 22:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 22:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 23:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-20 11:28 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-20 12:06 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 8:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-21 12:10 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 15:27 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-22 7:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-25 11:04 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-20 12:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-20 13:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-24 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-26 18:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-26 23:44 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-27 13:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-01 11:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-19 23:00 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 8:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-21 12:01 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-22 2:14 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-22 3:09 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-21 14:29 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-09-21 14:35 ` Horst von Brand
2001-09-19 21:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19 21:55 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-20 13:02 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 19:07 vm rewrite ready [Re: broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9] Rik van Riel
2001-09-16 15:19 ` broken VM in 2.4.10-pre9 Phillip Susi
2001-09-16 19:33 ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 19:52 ` Rik van Riel
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[not found] ` <fa.gu977tv.1b7u0g9@ifi.uio.no>
2001-09-16 18:06 ` Dan Maas
2001-09-15 22:43 Peter Magnusson
2001-09-15 23:50 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-16 5:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 8:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-17 10:25 ` Tonu Samuel
2001-09-16 16:47 ` Jeremy Zawodny
2001-09-16 18:36 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-16 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-16 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 14:04 ` Olaf Zaplinski
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