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From: Simon Kirby <sim@netnation.com>
To: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: O_NONBLOCK on files
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:05:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010924140534.E2335@netnation.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010918234648.A21010@netnation.com> <m1r8t3fyot.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <20010919002439.A21138@netnation.com> <20010924234717.V11046@mea-ext.zmailer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010924234717.V11046@mea-ext.zmailer.org>; from matti.aarnio@zmailer.org on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:47:17PM +0300

On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:47:17PM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 12:24:39AM -0700, Simon Kirby wrote:
> 
> > Hmm...Without even thinking about it, I assumed it would start a read and
> > select() or poll() or some later call would return readable when my
> > outstanding request was fulfilled.  But yes, I guess you're right, this is
> > different behavior because there is no other side.
> 
>    To push the idea into ultimate:  AIO
> 
>    You open file, start IO, and do other things while the machine
>    is doing IO.    Doing open() asynchronously would be ultimate,
>    but alas, not particularly trivial.
> 
>    There are problems also in the AIO status rendezvous mechanisms.
> 
>    Your best choice could be (with moderation) to do synchronous
>    operations at separate threads.

Yes, but this sucks.  My whole intent was an interface design that would
never need to context switch.  I'm not sure if this is even possible, but
if so it would be very nice from a userspace perspective.

Simon-

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-24 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-19  6:46 O_NONBLOCK on files Simon Kirby
2001-09-19  7:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-19  7:24   ` Simon Kirby
2001-09-24 20:47     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-09-24 21:05       ` Simon Kirby [this message]
2001-09-24 21:30         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-19  8:52   ` Erik Andersen

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