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From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: davem@redhat.com, marcelo@conectiva.com.br,
	riel@conectiva.com.br, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	torvalds@transmeta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	anton@samba.org, jdoelle@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Locking comment on shrink_caches()
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:38:34 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010926123834.A9171@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010926103424.A8893@in.ibm.com> <3BB16834.4393EEA3@zip.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3BB16834.4393EEA3@zip.com.au>; from akpm@zip.com.au on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 10:31:32PM -0700

On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 10:31:32PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Dipankar Sarma wrote:
> > 
> > John Hawkes from SGI had published some AIM7 numbers that showed
> > pagecache_lock to be a bottleneck above 4 processors. At 32 processors,
> > half the CPU cycles were spent on waiting for pagecache_lock. The
> > thread is at -
> > 
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lse-tech&m=98459051027582&w=2
> > 
> 
> That's NUMA hardware.   The per-hashqueue locking change made
> a big improvement on that hardware.  But when it was used on
> Intel hardware it made no measurable difference at all.
> 
> Sorry, but the patch adds compexity and unless a significant
> throughput benefit can be demonstrated on less exotic hardware,
> why use it?

I agree that on NUMA systems, contention and lock wait times
degenerate non-linearly thereby skewing the actual impact.

IIRC, there were discussions on lse-tech about pagecache_lock and 
dbench numbers published by Juergen Doelle (on 8way Intel) and 
Anton Blanchard on 16way PPC. Perhaps they can shed some light on this.

Thanks
Dipankar
-- 
Dipankar Sarma  <dipankar@in.ibm.com> Project: http://lse.sourceforge.net
Linux Technology Center, IBM Software Lab, Bangalore, India.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-26  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-26  5:04 Locking comment on shrink_caches() Dipankar Sarma
2001-09-26  5:31 ` Andrew Morton
2001-09-26  6:57   ` David S. Miller
2001-09-26  7:08   ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2001-09-26 16:52   ` John Hawkes
     [not found] <fa.cbgmt3v.192gc8r@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.cd0mtbv.1aigc0v@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <i1m66a5o1zc.fsf@verden.pvv.ntnu.no>
2001-09-27  1:34     ` Vojtech Pavlik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-25 17:49 Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-25 19:57 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25 18:40   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-25 20:15     ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25 19:02       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-25 20:29         ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25 21:00           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-25 21:55             ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25 22:16               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-25 22:28                 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-26 16:40                   ` Alan Cox
2001-09-26 17:25                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-26 17:40                       ` Alan Cox
2001-09-26 17:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-26 18:01                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-26 18:01                         ` Dave Jones
2001-09-26 20:20                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-09-26 20:24                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-09-26 17:43                       ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-26 18:24                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-26 18:48                           ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-26 18:58                             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-26 17:45                       ` Dave Jones
2001-09-26 17:50                       ` Alan Cox
2001-09-26 17:59                         ` Dave Jones
2001-09-26 18:07                           ` Alan Cox
2001-09-26 18:09                           ` Padraig Brady
2001-09-26 18:22                             ` Dave Jones
2001-09-26 18:24                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-26 18:40                             ` Dave Jones
2001-09-26 19:12                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-26 19:04                             ` George Greer
2001-09-26 18:59                         ` George Greer
2001-09-26 23:26                       ` David S. Miller
2001-09-27 12:10                         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-27 15:38                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-27 17:44                             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-27 19:41                           ` David S. Miller
2001-09-27 22:59                             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-25 22:03             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-25 20:24       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-25 20:28         ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25 21:05           ` Andrew Morton
2001-09-25 21:48             ` David S. Miller
     [not found]         ` <200109252215.f8PMFDa02034@eng2.beaverton.ibm.com>
2001-09-25 22:26           ` David S. Miller
2001-09-26 17:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-09-25 22:01       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-25 22:03         ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25 22:59           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-25 20:40     ` Josh MacDonald
2001-09-25 19:25       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-25 21:57   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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