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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: foner-reiserfs@media.mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: ReiserFS data corruption in very simple configuration
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:17:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011003171703.B5209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200109221000.GAA11263@out-of-band.media.mit.edu> <3BB88B63.AEE6EF8E@namesys.com>
In-Reply-To: <3BB88B63.AEE6EF8E@namesys.com>; from reiser@namesys.com on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 07:27:31PM +0400

Hi,

On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 07:27:31PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
> This is the meaning of metadata journaling: that writes in progress at the time
> of the crash may write garbage, but you won't need to fsck.  You can get this
> behaviour with other filesystems like FFS also.  If you cannot accept those
> terms of service, you might use ext3 with data journaling on, but then your
> performance will be far worse.

ext3 with ordered data writes has performance nearly up to the level
of the fast-and-loose writeback mode for most workloads, and still
avoids ever exposing stale disk blocks after a crash.

Sure, it's a tradeoff, but there are positions between the two
extremes (totally unordered data writes, and totally journaled data
writes) which offer a good compromise here.

Cheers,
 Stephen

  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-03 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-22 10:00 ReiserFS data corruption in very simple configuration foner-reiserfs
2001-09-22 12:47 ` Nikita Danilov
2001-09-22 20:44   ` foner-reiserfs
2001-09-25 13:28     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-29  4:44       ` Lenny Foner
2001-09-29 12:52         ` [reiserfs-list] " Lehmann 
2001-10-01  1:00           ` foner-reiserfs
2001-10-01  1:26             ` Lehmann 
2001-10-01  2:32               ` foner-reiserfs
2001-10-03 16:28               ` Toby Dickenson
2001-10-01 11:30         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-24  9:25   ` [reiserfs-list] " Jens Benecke
2001-10-14 14:52     ` Chris Mason
2001-10-14 18:19       ` Jens Benecke
2001-10-14 20:04         ` Hans Reiser
2001-10-14 23:32         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-09-25 20:13   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-26 14:43     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-10-01  3:38       ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-03 16:14         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-10-01 15:27 ` Hans Reiser
2001-10-03 16:17   ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2001-10-03 20:06     ` Pascal Schmidt
2001-10-04 11:02       ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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